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Radiator Drain Tap Came Out... how to fix?
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abartlett Andrew B
Glen Allen, VA, USA   USA
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1951 MG TD
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I've started working on my car for the first time (always paid someone else before, but that's getting too expensive and not nearly as fun). Having a good time and interesting how many things that are NOT there that should be (fuel filters in the carbs, washers for the connections to the oil filter, etc.).

My current problem: I want to flush the radiator. So, I tried to open the radiator drain tap and it promptly came out. Plus side is, the radiator is now drained. ;-)

So, what do I need to do to get the tap reattached? Any resoures anyone can point me to?

Thanks.

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Re: Radiator Drain Tap Came Out... how to fix?
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LaVerne LaVerne Downey
Fruita, CO, USA   USA
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1969 MG MGB "The Beater"
1979 Triumph TR8 "Turd 8"
Do you mean the fitting is torn out of the bottom of the tank? If so it will have to be either brazed or soldered back in place. If you mean you unthreaded it.. just put it back in place.

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abartlett Andrew B
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Fitting torn out of the bottom of the tank. So, I can just solder it back on (once I free up the valve so it will turn)? Thanks.

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Re: Radiator Drain Tap Came Out... how to fix?
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Bob Agar Robert Agar
Green Valley, AZ, USA   USA
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Remove the radiator from the car and take it to a commercial radiator shop to have it brazed back in. At the same time, have the radiator professionally cleaned and inspected. It's worth your time at this stage. I did the same things for the very same reasons just a year or so ago.


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LaVerne LaVerne Downey
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I agree with Bob..brazing is the way to go.

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Mr. Barry Edward Wesson
Hiawassee, GA, USA   USA
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Yeah...Don't do that yourself...Not worth the possible problems...
Edward


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Bob Agar Robert Agar
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By the way, I don't recommend it, but I drove the car for a couple of weeks around town before I could get it fixed using one of those plunger-style bottle stoppers in the drain hole. Since the radiator isn't pressurized, it held just fine until I could get the radiator pulled and repaired.


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1957 MGA 1500 Coupe - Stock and original except paint
1953 MG TD - Original car with no mods

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abartlett Andrew B
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So, why not solder and do this myself? What issues could I run in to? Seems to me the melting point of the solder is significantly above what the radiator or engine will hit. If the radiator or engine gets that hot, other things are going to go first. Right?

Short version: I've spent a decent amount on the cooling system already (about $2K a year and a half ago), and I'm not that thrilled about the prospect of blowing more cash on something I can do myself.

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LaVerne LaVerne Downey
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Solder will work if you have two overlaping surfaces and the desired method if the fitting came out and no metal was damaged. Sounds like you had more of a tear in the metal. Won't work so well if butting, then brazing would be the desired method..

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Mr. Barry Edward Wesson
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The heat required to braze and repair, will spread...There is no practical way to contain (sink) it , on a surface that large....This will cause damage to delicate surfaces in the radiator core.....A radiator shop is equipped to patch the area, and repair the core if it gets damaged.
That repair will probably cost less than $100, including cleaning the core and testing for pressure....Radiator shops do repairs like this every day.
But look, it's your car and your money, so you have to do what you feel is right....Also remember, this is a hobby, and there is no such thing as a cheap hobby.
Edward


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Re: Radiator Drain Tap Came Out... how to fix?
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DavePro David Provan
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Re-coring is worth a thought if it's at all suspect - they aren't too dear.

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This was re cored with 4 rows, tanks and side brackets straightened. New upper fan guard with brass id plate re attached. Cost, $400.00 PJ


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kirks-auto Robert Kirk (RIP)
Davenport, IA, USA   USA
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Andrew apparently has invested heavily already in a radiator overhaul so I don't think suggestions to overhaul his radiator are of help. Solder, especially silver solder will work fine as long as you are able to heat the material sufficiently to flow the solder and not damage the intricate solder of the tank and cores. If you have literally ripped metal, I doubt the painstaking prep required to solder will be either easy or well done. Ergo brazing is what I would recommend. In any event the rad has to be removed. Try solder and if it works great. If not follow the sage advice being offered and let a pro fix the problem.


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Andrew, Question, did the brass collar that the tap screws in just break loose or did the tank tear? A photo would be helpful if possible. If the collar broke loose, then it's an easy fix, if the tank tore open, then the tank should be removed from the core and brazed back together. My son has been in the radiator business for 30 years and he's redone many antique car radiators. I've seen both situations before. PJ

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abartlett Andrew B
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Hey everyone. Surprised this thread popped back up. I silver soldered the collar back in. It simply pulled out. I laid the radiator down and filled it with water to protect the "guts" of the radiator. I was then able to heat the collar in place enough to allow the solder to flow in.

Thanks.

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