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Front End Alignment
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In reply to # 3666357 by Chas 906
I'm assuming because of the front and rear independent suspension?
Lol! Yes... the front suspension is independent from the rear on these cars.
There are no adjustments provided for the rear I am aware of.
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Rick's statement is true to all extents when talking about an MG Midget, as we are here. There is no 4 wheel or thrust angle adjustment to the centerline of each axle on a Midget. If everything is bolted together properly and the chassis isn't bent the car will go down the road straight. There is nothing to adjust or that can be adjusted but toe. It isn't a Corvette.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-01-22 10:37 AM by refisk.
In reply to # 3666340 by Colonel musturd 79
Rick's statment is true to some extent the acceptation is when performing a 4 wheel or thrust angle then all wheels are adjusted to the center line of each axle. In the old days before the modern alinement equipment we would have to aline the front susp. and then back the car on the machine to aline the rear susp. on cars like the Corvette, If not careful you could make the car go down the road sideways.
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about 5 years and 1 month later...
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Mar 6, 2023 06:07 AM
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Seth, Thanks for your alignment insights for 'string touching tires' and track variation.
Will be doing toe adjust after rack boot job.
Noted your spacer block of 0.775 to allow string at rear to align with front track.
After running that number against inch fractions and mm (31/40” or 19.685mm), I'm at a loss to find anything to use that meets that spec... save machining something.
Am I correct in thinking that if a string, extending past the back and front of the car, is set parallel to the rear rim centerline, but at a convenient 'X' distance to clear the body, the front rim can be adjusted using accurate measures off that parallel? Thus no spacer or extra person needed.
UPDATE:
Set up toe-in at 1/16 per side yesterday via string between jackstands method as a one man job, and took 1.5 hours from set up and finish.
Decided to use the horizontal centerline at the outside beads of rear rims as my parallel reference, with string about an inch away.
Started with 1/16" inch graduated tape measure, and final checked with dial caliper.
PO must have had it right because she tracks just as nicely as before the tie rod boot replacement.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-03-08 01:53 PM by Drewski.
Will be doing toe adjust after rack boot job.
Noted your spacer block of 0.775 to allow string at rear to align with front track.
After running that number against inch fractions and mm (31/40” or 19.685mm), I'm at a loss to find anything to use that meets that spec... save machining something.
Am I correct in thinking that if a string, extending past the back and front of the car, is set parallel to the rear rim centerline, but at a convenient 'X' distance to clear the body, the front rim can be adjusted using accurate measures off that parallel? Thus no spacer or extra person needed.
UPDATE:
Set up toe-in at 1/16 per side yesterday via string between jackstands method as a one man job, and took 1.5 hours from set up and finish.
Decided to use the horizontal centerline at the outside beads of rear rims as my parallel reference, with string about an inch away.
Started with 1/16" inch graduated tape measure, and final checked with dial caliper.
PO must have had it right because she tracks just as nicely as before the tie rod boot replacement.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-03-08 01:53 PM by Drewski.
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In reply to # 3666414 by halloween
I made a toe gauge with a machinist square welded to an 1/8" X 1"X 4' srap iron with a 1' piece of strap welded to the other end at a right angle. It works on all my cars, even my '67 Chevy P/U.
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Gregg, in effect, a large carpenter square. That would work well.
My technique has been to always just use a pair of 8' 1"X4" boards sitting on appropriate blocks and extended out in front of the car and against the tires. Take one measurement then flip the boards over and take another. Average the two measurements to account for any warp in the boards. The method is accurate and no laying on the ground.
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Align the front end, just like it has been done for 100 years, Of course, "TOE" was "Built-in" for cars like the Model "A", with a solid axle. Once Spring or Torsion Bars were invented, then "TOE" had to be set, after assembly. I am guessing that 90% of shops across the world, WITHOUT a $50,000.00 BEAR front end alignment machine use a "TRAMMEL BAR" I manufacture a nice one, Collapses to about 30" and extends out to about 85" Small enough for your Midget, BIG enough for your HONDA, or whatever. I fabricate them by "Special Order" so if you are interested, click on my "Banner Ad Below" or go directly to it here @ www.britishcarservicetools.com My Part# 031969 click on the "CONTACT" icon to order. Tech Service available. . This is a shop quality all-steel tool.
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In reply to # 2013676 by mntoy
Looking for the toe-in measurement recommended for my 62 Midget (1/8" more or less)?. Just completed a front disc brake conversion and want to check the alignment. I keep seeing people refering to the string method but cannot find it in the library or an old article, any help there would be nice too. Just want to read a different method.
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Mike
Thanks,
Mike
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In reply to # 4625926 by Chas 906
Thanks for the info and your web site Joe. Just send you an order request. Best, Chuck.
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