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ErnieY Ernie Y
Albatera, Alicante, Spain   ESP
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Please advise which tyre manufacturer or manufacturers issue specifications for their tyres when fitted to a 52 year old car ?

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Ex-Calif Dan D
Dayton, OH, USA   USA
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1968 MG MGB GT "Bart - Yellow And Naughty"
1977 MG MGB "Red Betty"
2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara "Suzi Q"
2012 Jeep Liberty "Tommy The Tank"
Angels dancing on pins.

MG manual says 21/24 or whatever. Then they say add 5 or 6 psi for fully loaded or high speeds. so 27/30. I reckon I can run anywhere between 21/30 and be following MGs recommendation.

The maker of my tire has a number stamped on it - probably in excess of 50 psi (I remember reading it and thinking, "that's crazy" so it is a big number) If I am below that I am complying with their recommendation.

I emailed them and they did not respond.

I have done my due diligence for some insurance company and I would love to see one case of an insurance claim denial due to tire pressure. They'd be out of business pretty lickety split I think.


In reply to # 3048281 by Octarine-Services
In reply to # 3048276 by Ex-Calif Tire shop delivered mine back at 35psi. Rattled my teeth.

If I was an ignorant consumer I would have driven merrily along none the wiser. I don't know if my insurance company would have valid precedent to deny a claim based on tire pressure unless the tire was a causative factor.

35 psi is probably the max stamped on the sidewall - it is on most UK tyres for MGBs.

Read your policy small print - mine says " We will provide the cover described in this insurance document only if .... You take all reasonable steps to protect your vehicle from loss or damage and maintain it in accordance with the manufacturer's specifications unless we have agreed to cover any modifications made to the vehicle."



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ErnieY Ernie Y
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In reply to # 3048539 by Ex-Calif I emailed them and they did not respond.
Did you really thing they would ?

To have responded with a recommendation would have potentially put them in the frame for being sued when somebody had a blowout and was looking for someone to blame !

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dipstick Kenny Snyder (RIP)
La Center, WA, USA   USA
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1941 Ford N-Series
1958 MG MGA 1500 Coupe "Rosie"
1970 MG MGB GT "Pat's GT"
1971 MG MGB "Gifted To Me"    & more
1971 MGB roadster, 185/70-14 Michelin Defender, 27psi cold front, 32psi cold rear, air not nitrogen.

I just completed a 30 mile freeway tire tread digital probe pyrometer temperature check on a 94*F afternoon, and all four tires had equal tread temperature outside, center, and inside. Handling is neutral.



Be safe out there.
Kenny

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Octarine-Services Chris Betson
Leigh on Sea, Essex, UK   GBR
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2002 Other Not Listed "Scully"
Just to add fuel to the fire - tyre pressures for the MG RV8 running modern low profile tyres - 22 front 24 rear..... set by Rover in the mid 90s.

The only justification for running 27 / 30 would be if you drove everywhere at 100mph - then you would be in a different sort of trouble with the law eye rolling smiley

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dipstick Kenny Snyder (RIP)
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1958 MG MGA 1500 Coupe "Rosie"
1970 MG MGB GT "Pat's GT"
1971 MG MGB "Gifted To Me"    & more
"The only justification for running 27 / 30 would be if you drove everywhere at 100mph ......"

Is this justification? The original tire pressure door sticker on my 1971 MGB roadster.



Be safe out there.
Kenny


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1968 MG MGB GT "Bart - Yellow And Naughty"
1977 MG MGB "Red Betty"
2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara "Suzi Q"
2012 Jeep Liberty "Tommy The Tank"
Well you're not running 165/14s so forget any insurance claims - LOL...



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Bart - http://www.mgexp.com/registry/GHD4U146898G

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Originally those manufacturer guidelines were even lower. I remember Michelin plates near pumpstations in the 70's quoting 1,5/1,7 bar as regular.
By then I had already selected 1,6/1,8 bar for city driving and 1,7/1,9 bar on holidays. In those years I dared to drive in excess of 100mph eye popping smiley

PS These old 1,9/2,2 bar figures are very close to my present 2,0/2,2 bar for my brandnew Michelins in the175/70R14 variety

In reply to # 3048646 by dipstick "The only justification for running 27 / 30 would be if you drove everywhere at 100mph ......"

Is this justification? The original tire pressure door sticker on my 1971 MGB roadster.

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davelinkson Dave Linkson
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Think this says it all for handling & safety.....http://www.v8register.net/subpages/news291210tyrepressures.htm

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oily-hands Owen Frankland
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1937 MG TA "Numbum"
1971 MG MGB GT "The Bruise"
1971 GT. 30psi front 32psi rear.

Tyres wear evenly, handling is pretty neutral tending towards understeer. Ride is firm but not uncomfortable and a lot better than many cars I've driven.



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Octarine-Services Chris Betson
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In reply to # 3048646 by dipstick "The only justification for running 27 / 30 would be if you drove everywhere at 100mph ......"

Is this justification? The original tire pressure door sticker on my 1971 MGB roadster.

not sure what you are saying there , but the sticker is in line with 21/24 cold normal pressure + 6 all round for max speed and +2 on the rear for max load.

So you would only use these pressure with the mother in law in the back seat / boot at 100 mph+ eye rolling smiley

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Octarine-Services Chris Betson
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2002 Other Not Listed "Scully"
In reply to # 3048961 by davelinkson Think this says it all for handling & safety.....http://www.v8register.net/subpages/news291210tyrepressures.htm

Nope - just gives 2 more personal preferences eye rolling smiley

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
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The optimal tires pressure will vary depending on the tire. It take a bit of time & experimenting to find the correct pressure for the tire & type of driving.

I am currently riding on Toyo RA-1 tires. For normal street driving, 26psi all around works great. For track days, I bump it up to 30psi front & rear.

I agree with those that say the recommendations on the door jamb or in the glove box are not relevant. Go with the tire manufacturers suggestions as a starting point.

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71 Green GT Murray B
Alexandra, Otago, New Zealand   NZL
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Experiment; between cold and hot, tyre pressure should rise about 4 psi; any more and cold pressure too low; any less and cold pressure too high; works on a motor cycle and I have done it on 71 MGB GT.

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Sprites and Spirits Ed Forrest
Marietta, GA, USA   USA
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1959 Austin-Healey Bugeye Sprite
1960 Austin-Healey Bugeye Sprite "Elizabeth"
1971 MG Midget
1981 AMC Eagle "Full Race"    & more
Wow...

Seems like all I have to do is change tire pressures and all problems are solved..or created!!

Spring rates? Shock rates? What do you think...sway bars front and rear...or...panhard rod in the rear and sway bars for IRS only...as Vic Derrington says!


Amazing discussion...I must say.

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