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B72Blue Alon A
Sherman Oaks, CA, USA   USA
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That fuse block is all wrong. it is meant for you to bring power tot he plus post on top and each fuse is fed from there. you need a fuse box that has an in connection on one side and out on the other side of the fuse.

I had looked at those multiple times and came to the conclusion that either it would not work, or one would have to modify it. If I were to modify it I would think one would need to take it apart and see if there is a common bus bar inside. if so, you would want to separate the bus bar so some of it is ignition sourced and some of it is battery constant sourced.

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MG14611 Robert P
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Keep in mind that the Original fuse block is not only a 4 fuse device, it also serves as a distribution point where an input source, be it switched or unswitched, feeds out to one or more circuits.

If you’re only attempting to add fuses to circuits the weren’t individually and independently fused before, then you could make use of fuse panels that have no common feed buss. HOWEVER the common connection point of the original fuse block must be preserved, either by keeping the original fuse block or by adding daisy chain jumpers to the new fuse panels.

A fuse block with a common feed buss provides the distribution to replicate the function of the oem fuse block.

You just need as many separate fuse blocks as there are independent feeds. One benefit of these new fuse blocks with common feeds is that they all appear to have built in LED lights that light up when a fuse is blown, aside from the benefit of using bladed fuses.

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oleanderjoe Platinum Member Joseph Baba
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BEST "AntiTheft" device posted this year so far Great Job. smileys with beer

In reply to # 4782173 by RestorerMG Hello all,
After describing what the car is doing, I will be open to any humor that you see in my predicament...I'm prepared...
Switched out the old fuse box to a 12-position blade type box.
As it stands now:
Engine only turns over and starts if light switch is on.
Turn on light switch, fuel pump starts.
turn lights off, turn key to ON position, fuel pump starts.
Turn key to start, nothing except fuel pump.
Switch on light switch, car starts.
Turn lights off, engine still runs but dash gauges shut down.
I've been tracing wires to see if I connected two (some) of them wrong. I had to double up the circuits because of the 12 fuse connections.
Also, I was told the new box needed to have a circuit "jumped" which I do not know what that accomplishes.
With engine off and light switch on, every fuse post has power.
Noticeable with new fuse box, brighter lights, more responsive blinka's.
I know it might be hard to follow my description but if i can get guidance for the correct connections, I appreciate it!
Car is drivable as long as parking light are on...everything else electric functions fine.
I think I need to start from square one...
Thanks All,
Bill
(Wire nuts are temp.,)



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Crispin Crispin Allen
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It’s a good idea to modernise the electrics. They were just about adequate for the 1960’s. But after 40-60 years of wear & tear, there’s probably quite a few areas which could be improved. Anything that reduces the chance of the car going up in smoke is a good idea. Bill’s idea is a good one, but just needs a few tweaks in the execution. Here's one of the many skinned cat options.


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RestorerMG Silver Member Bill Schultz
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Thanks Crispin!

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LOL...Cool!! (Not so much)...smileys with beer

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RestorerMG Silver Member Bill Schultz
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Hi John, Yea, Im not very methodical, wire nuts will go. Im going to get the correct box for the switched circuts.
I was having trouble with the bottom fuse and connections. Kept cutting out, but fuse would not blow. I thought it might have been the ignition relay but tracing the problem, it was the fuse box. Second Lucas I've installed. Blades just seem to be safer and there is a marked diff. in the light brightness and flasher speed.
When I get it sorted and neat, I will repost, It will be neat and concise.
Thanks for the feedback,
Bill

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Where was that fusebox from Crispin and did it come with a cover ?

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Made by a company called Ripca. Think I got mine on Ebay. Yes they come with a cover.


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Mudlark Gold Member John Gardner
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There have been several posts about a modern 4 blade fuse fuse box for the MGs. That is the best and easiest conversion on this planet! Put that 12 blade in the "opps" box and get the 4 blade unit. Also if you didn't download those wiring diagrams, go back and do it. They are the tops and absolutely necessary in dealing with the Prince of Darkness.

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TOTALLY AGREE: Everything else looks "Cluttered", NOT Pretty at all. Four is enough. Wrap some of the clutter. confused smiley

In reply to # 4783317 by Mudlark There have been several posts about a modern 4 blade fuse fuse box for the MGs. That is the best and easiest conversion on this planet! Put that 12 blade in the "opps" box and get the 4 blade unit. Also if you didn't download those wiring diagrams, go back and do it. They are the tops and absolutely necessary in dealing with the Prince of Darkness.



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Factor Steve Williams
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Another image that is ugly - a fried wire within the loom because there was no fuse to protect it.


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RestorerMG Silver Member Bill Schultz
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Hi All,
Does this look like thr correct circuit connections?
Advise, comments appreciated...
Bill


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Factor Steve Williams
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Almost. You really should be looking at the Advance wiring diagram. Here's a screen grab from the page with North American '74...

You need to jump the two top left terminals to get power from the light switch (red/grn) to all the light circuits on the left side (red).
The ?? where you have some brown wires - those should be 1) the white wire from the ignition switch (which brings KO power to your fuse box) and 2) the white wire that take KO power to your coil.

The stated wire colors are assuming that wires haven't been replaced with different colors - but that's what they should be connected to.


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In reply to # 4783873 by RestorerMG Hi All,
Does this look like thr correct circuit connections?
Advise, comments appreciated...
Bill

Your diagram doesn’t show the the internal connections of the actual fuse block you are using.

To properly evaluate your current wire plan, can you at least provide the make and model of the fuse block you are using?

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