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Chassis number ..
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wimpus Wim D P
Dendermonde, East-Flanders, Belgium   BEL
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1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Fox"
Hi,

I'm normally a Triumph guy, i own a Spitfire .
But my friend has bought a MG B Gt originally from the USA, but he bought it last week in the Netherlands..

Now here in belgium the chassis number must be stamped into the floor , it may not be on a riveted plate :/

So where is normally the place to put it ? Hopefully somebody will know this .

Thanks already winking smiley

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PLGardner Peter Gardner
Stanley, NC, USA   USA
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The VIN or chassis number of a US spec MGB is on a plate behind the radiator, or on the inner fender, I believe on the RH side (when viewed from inside the car). Starting in late 60's or early 70's, they did also start to stamp this number into I think the floor of the trunk (Boot) or on the floor pan. I will check my references to confirm.

The VIN will start as GHN3 for roadster or GHD3 for GT Coupe. Later they became GHN4/GHD4 and finally GHN5/GHD5.

What year is the car, and does it have a VIN tag in the expected location?

Regards,

Peter G
1967 MGB TOurer

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petersingleton peter singleton
Paignton, Paignton, UK   GBR
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1979 MG MGB GT
1981 Saab 900
My dad imported his BGT to the Netherlands back in the 80s, but being a UK spec car it didn't have a stamped chassis number so they made him pay to get it stamped into the body.

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wimpus Wim D P
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1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Fox"
In reply to # 2495122 by PLGardner The VIN or chassis number of a US spec MGB is on a plate behind the radiator, or on the inner fender, I believe on the RH side (when viewed from inside the car). Starting in late 60's or early 70's, they did also start to stamp this number into I think the floor of the trunk (Boot) or on the floor pan. I will check my references to confirm.

The VIN will start as GHN3 for roadster or GHD3 for GT Coupe. Later they became GHN4/GHD4 and finally GHN5/GHD5.

What year is the car, and does it have a VIN tag in the expected location?

Regards,

Peter G
1967 MGB TOurer

Hi Peter ,

It's a 1973 (i think it was ) MG B Gt , there is a plate at the drivers sill that says the chassis no , but didn't check anywhere else ( haven't got much time today).

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wimpus Wim D P
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1978 Triumph Spitfire 1500 "The Fox"
In reply to # 2495122 by PLGardner The VIN or chassis number of a US spec MGB is on a plate behind the radiator, or on the inner fender, I believe on the RH side (when viewed from inside the car). Starting in late 60's or early 70's, they did also start to stamp this number into I think the floor of the trunk (Boot) or on the floor pan. I will check my references to confirm.

The VIN will start as GHN3 for roadster or GHD3 for GT Coupe. Later they became GHN4/GHD4 and finally GHN5/GHD5.

What year is the car, and does it have a VIN tag in the expected location?

Regards,

Peter G
1967 MGB TOurer

Hi Peter ,

It's a 1973 (i think it was ) MG B Gt , there is a plate at the drivers sill that says the chassis no , but didn't check anywhere else ( haven't got much time today).

Regards Wim

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wimpus Wim D P
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In reply to # 2495126 by petersingleton My dad imported his BGT to the Netherlands back in the 80s, but being a UK spec car it didn't have a stamped chassis number so they made him pay to get it stamped into the body.

We asked it at the place where they test cars & co and the big boss there told us to stamp it in ourselfs .. because the manufacture (MG-Rover) doesn't exist anymore and normally you can ask them for papers (my spitfire has them).
But now you need to go to other places and that could take months or even a yeah !

The car was now bought from the Netherlands .. and they also said here in Belgium that they could passed it always in the Netherlands..

My garage said he stamped many chassis no into american cars in the past .. so will look tomorrow everywhere and otherwise we are going to stamp one in , so it can go for a test on friday ..

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balloonfoot Lloyd Faust
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If it is a USA car, the number is stamped in the right hand chassis leg above the rear mount on the front cross member opposite the starter motor. Only place it was stamped in 73.


Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

"Anyone with an intense emotional interest in a subject loses the ability to observe it objectively: You selectively perceive events. You ignore data and facts that disagree with your main philosophy. Even your memory works to fool you, as you selectively retain what you believe in, and subtly mask any memories that might conflict."

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PLGardner Peter Gardner
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The number may also be stamped on the floor pan in front of the right hand seat. Not sure if this applies to US cars. The main id plate is on the door frame of the left hand door and also there should be one on the top of the scuttle visible through the windshield. These should all match the plate on the radiator valance.

Peter G

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lgorg Larry Gorg
Renton, WA, USA   USA
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1966 MG MGB "Robbie"
Here is the thread to the best location of VIN numbers that I have found. My '67 does not have the VIN stamped into the RH floor, but it does have the VIN stamped on the frame rail in front of the starter.

Genuine VIN from engine ID?

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dipstick Kenny Snyder (RIP)
La Center, WA, USA   USA
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1958 MG MGA 1500 Coupe "Rosie"
1970 MG MGB GT "Pat's GT"
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The serial number is stamped into the vertical right side frame rail about even with the starter.


Be safe out there.
Kenny


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GJackson Greg J
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Can anyone confirm that the tab above the rubber mount for the front cross member on the right side is where all mk1 cars are stamped. I checked my car and it does not look to be marked here.

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lgorg Larry Gorg
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In reply to a post by Wim De Pus It's a 1973 (i think it was ) MG B Gt , there is a plate at the drivers sill that says the chassis no , but didn't check anywhere else ( haven't got much time today).

The Tech Library article, Decoding the MGB VIN was updated by Syke. According to the article, on a 1970 to 1980 MGB, look on the driver's side door frame. There should be a plate secured to the dashboard with it also.

In reply to a post by GJackson Can anyone confirm that the tab above the rubber mount for the front cross member on the right side is where all mk1 cars are stamped. I checked my car and it does not look to be marked here.

On my '67, its stamped into the frame rail behind the brake line forward of the starter. Hard to read when under the car. I had to use a mirror to find it.

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wimpus Wim D P
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We've got the number stamped into the floor, passed the test & co winking smiley

A few weeks after we've found one on the front crossmember .. nearly rusted away ..

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mgbanthony Anthony Henderson
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In reply to # 2524465 by GJackson Can anyone confirm that the tab above the rubber mount for the front cross member on the right side is where all mk1 cars are stamped. I checked my car and it does not look to be marked here.

It seems to be very hit and miss. Many early cars I've had did not have it anywhere.

Stamping in the right hand floor was done in later rubber bumper production and not any earlier cars.

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balloonfoot Lloyd Faust
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In reply to # 2524930 by mgbanthony
It seems to be very hit and miss. Many early cars I've had did not have it anywhere.

Stamping in the right hand floor was done in later rubber bumper production and not any earlier cars.

Believed to be Nov-Dec of 1962 and for NA cars only. The drawing I have of the proposed stamping is not dated.


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"Anyone with an intense emotional interest in a subject loses the ability to observe it objectively: You selectively perceive events. You ignore data and facts that disagree with your main philosophy. Even your memory works to fool you, as you selectively retain what you believe in, and subtly mask any memories that might conflict."

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