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Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #1
lukeiswho Luke Holwerda Phx, AZ, USA Sign in to contact 1966 Austin-Healey Sprite "Gladys"	Topic Creator (OP) Jul 31, 2009 09:16 PM Joined 17 years ago 167 Posts

OK. I've asked before about tubes... but now for a possibly really dumb question... can, or should, I put tubes in a tire that is marked "tubeless"?

I'm really ignorant about tires. Went to Discount, ended up with tubeless tires, with tubes inside. Every now and then the go flat. TECHNICALLY, they ARE working right now... but I've had issues with the tubes being put in incorrectly. The tires are essentially brand new... so I'd rather not have to buy new ones, but its not a good idea to use them, let me know.

Secondly, and possibly more important... the tires are P175/70R13. I couldn't find tubes on the moss page that fit that size. How much trouble am I in?

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Re: Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #2
bleteaches6 Lee Orphan Bonney Lake, WA, USA Sign in to contact 1956 MG MGA 1500 1974 MG MGB GT 1974 MG MGB GT 1979 MG MGB Limited Edition (LE) & more	Jul 31, 2009 11:29 PM Top Contributor Joined 18 years ago 12,629 Posts

You have a couple of questions. Tire stores can get tubes in sizes other than what Moss shows. A good tire store will know what to get. Make sure that you have the rubber bands in place or other protection for the spoke heads. Make sure that the wheels and tires don't have burs or rough spots. Use talc or powder like there is no tomorrow. A good shop should be able to set you up without any problems at all.

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Re: Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #3
kirks-auto Robert Kirk (RIP) Davenport, IA, USA Sign in to contact	Aug 1, 2009 10:38 AM Joined 17 years ago 21,573 Posts

The issue is tubeless tires will fit both tubeless and tube style wheels. You have the later wheels so tubes are needed. Some wire wheels by Dayton are truly tubeless.

Use of talc, CAREFUL installation, wrapping the spokes with proper tape....NOT Duct or electrical....the tape and adhesives fall apart. These are keys to keeping tubes inflated.

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Re: Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #4
200mph Mike J Winston-Salem, NC, USA Sign in to contact 1965 Ford Ranchero 1967 Austin-Healey Sprite 1969 Austin-Healey Sprite 1970 Datsun 240Z & more	Aug 1, 2009 12:58 PM Top Contributor Joined 20 years ago 8,188 Posts

The problem isnt your tires, the wire wheels are leaking air.

Before you mess with tubes, make sure the wheels are properly sealed, as much as possible. Do a search of this and the MGB forum and you'll find lots of advice about taping and banding the inside of your wire wheels.

Or, you could swap the front hubs and rear axle to go to bolt-on wheels (lots of threads on this topic in both forums also). That will eliminate the leaking and tube/tire balance problems, save weight and improve performance.

To each his own!

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Re: Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #5
Kerr Norm Kerr Ann Arbor, MI, USA Sign in to contact 1974 MG Midget	Aug 1, 2009 03:24 PM Top Contributor Joined 17 years ago 10,632 Posts

one more pointer for using tubes: make sure that there are NO stickers of any kind inside the tire, there are commonly inspection labels / stickers of some kind on the inside surface and anything like that will quickly wear through the brand new tube and you have to start over again.

But I definitely advocate keeping the wire wheels. These cars just look so good on wires, and if one wants "trouble free motoring", they should buy a Honda.

Wire wheels set up right will last (and hold air) as well as any other kind of wheel. Sure they weigh more, but they look so good!

Norm

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Re: Inner tubes in tubeless tire? #6
lukeiswho Luke Holwerda Phx, AZ, USA Sign in to contact 1966 Austin-Healey Sprite "Gladys"	Topic Creator (OP) Aug 1, 2009 05:15 PM Joined 17 years ago 167 Posts

Thanks guys! I think I found a good classic car shop downtown, gonna give them a call. Im glad to know I can keep these tires.

I agree with you Norm... I love wires! Its one of the major things I love about these cars.

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