MG Engine Swaps Forum

I have weighed everything needed to build a complete, ready to run, Ford 302 except clutch, pressure plate, and throw out bearing - any one have actual weights for these? If I had those numbers, I'd know within a couple of pounds how much a 302 weighs.

Just measured the weight of the 95 Camaro flywheel at 19 lbs. the clutch and pressure plate at 14.5 lbs., the lever and TOB at 1.75 lbs.
Weighed together came to 35.2 lbs. Should be real close! Bill

Thanks, Bill,

That puts the weight of a 302 w/aluminum heads, a 27 pound flywheel (standard on FMC crate engines) and light weight accessories at 424 pounds. Compared to the original MG engine at 396 pounds!

Carl, that's what I was thinking too, versus a couple pounds for a flex plate. Bolt a torque converter to the flex plate or remove the clutch assembly and you have a better comparison.

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jeff@advanceddistributors.com

the OP says T5 in the subject line and the other info says M49 are they the same?
thanks

T-5 in general is a 5 speed manual tranny of which there are many variations. M49 is the General Motors RPO code for the GM V6 T-5, specifically.

thanks Carl and Brian

So, looking at these numbers it seems like it should be fairly easy to transplant the entire '94 Camaro 3.4 / 4L60E engine/automatic transmission setup to an MGB using the MGC's 3.07 gear ratios as used in most T5/V8 conversions. "Fairly" being relative - tunnel mods, mounts, custom driveshaft, etc. But with, say, 205/60/15 tires (more mods?) and the stock MGC gear ratios, the revs are amazingly close.

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Rick,

As you're getting ready, call me and I can get you a list close to what your searching for. Our parts and bits and pieces you'll need from elsewhere. As long as you are converting a 1968 and later MGB, the automatic fits with a little work, but from all accounts I have read and helped with, the 3.4L with automatic fits a lot easier than most other conversions. Slightly more work than a T5, but not much more.

-BMC.

Thanks, Brian. Parts of that may be happening sooner than I'd planned. I was talking to a friend, and it turns out he's got a '94 Camaro, 3.4L, A/C, automatic, ~156K miles, that he gave to his college-age son a few years ago. Sonny moved on, got a blingy new car, and the Camaro is just taking up room in Dad's driveway. The car runs rough - needs a cat, EGR, new plugs, wires (it's ticking/sparking on one side due to old wires), tires, fluid changes, etc. Maybe more, once it settles in and I can look at the DTC codes. But it runs. Best part is, looks like I'll be able to get it for a song - basically free.

So - the plan is to get the car, get it back on the road, and use it as a spare set of wheels until I'm ready to start on the GT conversion. (Gotta get rid of a donor '69 GT, gotta get my wife's old Maza's alternator replaced, that sort of thing. Oh, and replace the starter on my '73.) I do not want it to sit unused for another year or two, so it's important to spend a few shekels to make it road-worthy again.

Still pretty unsure about using this engine directly in the conversion 'cause of the mileage, but worst case is I use it as a core for a "new" long block. Jegs and Summit have remanufactured "crate" engines for under $2K. Pretty much everything else will be scavenged for the conversion.

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There are three parts to a conversion:

*The car
*The new driveline
*And all the parts that are built to connect the two unrelated items.

The third part is where we come in.

As for price, look at car-part.com and consider what an engine and gearbox cost off there. I suggest a used T5 is worth around $400, a used 3.4L is worth about $600, or $1,000 for the set. A used automatic, in my opinion, is worth a couple hundred less as more of them can be found very easily. If the asking price on the Camaro is $2,000 for instance, that's not a very good deal when you have to look at the total price of the conversion- which is not a simple "headers+engine+gearbox=done" as many imagine at the beginning. I'm not trying to scare you or lead you away but educate before starting. I know you will Love the end results.

-BMC.