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removing door cards on my 1951 TDI
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WilliamT Silver Member William Trowbridge
Sharon, CT, USA   USA
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I would like to install sound deadening material inside the doors of my '51 TD . To do this I will have to remove the door cards which I am reluctant to do because i believe they are attached with nails into the wood of the door frame and I don't want to yank the nails leaving holes in the wood making a loose nailing for when i drive in new nails. Should I simply forget the Dynomat? Thanks, William

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Re: removing door cards on my 1951 TDI
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Bruce Cunha
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I don't know that adding dynomat is going to do a lot in the doors or in the rear body areas.

Saying that, the nails are in the center of the piping. I used a tiny nail lifter under the piping to gently lift them. There is no reason to put them back exactly in the same hole.


Bruce E. Cunha

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MGTF1500 Ardeche France Thierry SUCHIER
TOURNON SUR RHONE, Rhône-Alpes Auvergne, France   FRA
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To remove the nails in the center of the pipe, I use a small screwdriver with a recess the size of the nail shank.
All you have to do is get under the head of the screwdriver, and use a small wedge for leverage.
Sincerely, Thierry from Ardèche, South of France

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TrickJD Silver Member John D
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WilliamT Silver Member William Trowbridge
Sharon, CT, USA   USA
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I am worried that after the nails are out there will be holes in the wood and when I go to put the nails back in they won't have wood to hold them in.

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WilliamT Silver Member William Trowbridge
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Thank you, Thierry, What would you think about filling the nail holes by tapping in wooden match shafts so the nails have fresh wood when I put them back? Thank you, William

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WilliamT Silver Member William Trowbridge
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Hi, Bruce, Perhaps putting Dynomat in the TD doors won't make much of a difference but I put a double layer of Dynomat inside the doors of my '64 B and shutting the doors went from a rattle to a good solid thunk. Thank you, William

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MGTF1500 Ardeche France Thierry SUCHIER
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In reply to # 4785270 by WilliamT Thank you, Thierry, What would you think about filling the nail holes by tapping in wooden match shafts so the nails have fresh wood when I put them back? Thank you, William

I've never had any trouble putting the nails back in.
They stick into the door frame and hold very well.
Thierry

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chrismgtd Christopher Couper
Shingle Springs, CA, USA   USA
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I would be worried about putting any filler into the door cavity. These cars are loose fitting and don't have much metal protection on the back side of painted surfaces. Anytime you restrict air movement you potentially cause a place for moisture to collect and rust. It sounds crazy but these cars just like to breath.


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Bruce Cunha
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There is a lot more going on in the MGB door with windows, regulators, locking mechanisms. Nothing inside the TD doors.

It will be interesting to see what affect it has for the TD.


Bruce E. Cunha

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GB3 George B
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TD doors are very solid and inherently well damped. Likely no benefit whatsoever. Toe board, tranny tunnel and upper firewall area may make a little difference. My 208Z doors sounded like tin cans when closed. The Dynamat made a big difference there. George

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MGTF1500 Ardeche France Thierry SUCHIER
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I'm also afraid that you're only going to make the doors heavier and perhaps damage the strikers more quickly.

On my TF, I preferred to insulate the floors, gearbox and firewall. I also created a deflector for the exhaust silencer.
Thierry

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68BULLITTbuilder Luigi D
Commack, NY, USA   USA
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1956 MG MGA 1500 "Claire"
A roadster with sound deadening...there's a new one. I want to see how snugly the side curtains fit along with that insulated cabriolet top.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-15 02:35 PM by 68BULLITTbuilder.

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MGTF1500 Ardeche France Thierry SUCHIER
TOURNON SUR RHONE, Rhône-Alpes Auvergne, France   FRA
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They need to be adjusted with patience, frame and fabric. But I've seen one that was so badly fixed that it was impossible to adjust.
And the hood and sidescreens are waterproof.
Sincerely, Thierry from Ardèche, South of France

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TD4834 Bill Chasser
Sacramento, CA, USA   USA
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There is no point to insulating the doors on a T series. It’s not going to reduce road noise significantly or retain temps within the cabin space. Any additional weight in the doors will only add to wear and stress on the door hinges and striker / latch mechanisms. If you must do it simply go behind the panel with a 6 way putty knife and gently pry the panel away from the door. Some nails may pull through the panel. Remove the the nails from the hidem strip once the panel is removed and remove the the nails still on the door Timbers that pulled through. When re installing the panel insert fresh brads into the hidem strip in new locations and drive them home with a drift punch


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