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BH Davis Avatar
Grosvenordale, CT &, Warren, VT, USA   USA
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I knew everyone who used Dawn to lube the windshield gaskets were on the right track. Current news article on Boeing problems below.

BH

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Then there was the matter of the dish soap.

At another point during the audit, the F.A.A. saw Spirit mechanics apply liquid Dawn soap to a door seal “as lubricant in the fit-up process,” the document describing some of the audit findings said. The agency also saw the door seal get cleaned with a wet cheesecloth to remove the soap and debris, according to the document, which said that instructions were “vague and unclear on what specifications/actions are to be followed or recorded by the mechanic.”

Those observations dealt with the process in which workers make sure the seal is properly installed against the door frame. Mr. Buccino said the Dawn soap was to ensure there were not tears or bulging when the seal was being installed. He said the chemical properties of the soap were found not to degrade the resilience of the seal over time. Spirit again worked to get Boeing’s approval to use the soap and to get it properly documented.

Spirit workers did not land on the dish soap on the first try. Mr. Buccino said that other common products had been used in the past — including Vaseline, cornstarch and talcum powder — but that they ran the risk of degrading the seal over time.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-12 05:11 AM by BH Davis.

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Michael74MGB Michael Austin
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Hmmm... I used KY lube.... wonder if THAT will get FAA approval... people do wonder why that bottle is in my shop... cool smiley



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Ahmed Ahmed A
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In reply to # 4783792 by Michael74MGB Hmmm... I used KY lube.... wonder if THAT will get FAA approval...


Likely not, but it will get approval from the American Medical Association for sure.. grinning smiley



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Bakataka John Poulsen
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I switched from Dawn liquid detergent to J&J baby tearless shampoo. So much better and stays slippery. thumbs up



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-12 12:32 AM by Bakataka.

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Here’s the part that bothers me: “… that instructions were “vague and unclear on what specifications/actions are to be followed or recorded by the mechanic.”

Seems to me that the mechanics would seek clarification. Sounds like a corporate culture that doesn’t place a priority on problem solving feedback.

In reply to # 4783786 by BH Davis I knew everyone who used Dawn to lube the windshield gaskets were on the right track. Current news article on Boeing problems below.

BH

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Then there was the matter of the dish soap.

At another point during the audit, the F.A.A. saw Spirit mechanics apply liquid Dawn soap to a door seal “as lubricant in the fit-up process,” the document describing some of the audit findings said. The agency also saw the door seal get cleaned with a wet cheesecloth to remove the soap and debris, according to the document, which said that instructions were “vague and unclear on what specifications/actions are to be followed or recorded by the mechanic.”

Those observations dealt with the process in which workers make sure the seal is properly installed against the door frame. Mr. Buccino said the Dawn soap was to ensure there were not tears or bulging when the seal was being installed. He said the chemical properties of the soap were found not to degrade the resilience of the seal over time. Spirit again worked to get Boeing’s approval to use the soap and to get it properly documented.

Spirit workers did not land on the dish soap on the first try. Mr. Buccino said that other common products had been used in the past — including Vaseline, cornstarch and talcum powder — but that they ran the risk of degrading the seal over time.



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