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Triple SU setup, which needles do you use?
Posted by mgdriver
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Apr 19, 2024 03:05 PM
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I am in the finishing process of my triple SU conversion. Everything works as expected, but I am struggling to get a decent idle and mixture. At the moment I have Bad needles and yellow springs in the carbs, but the needles seem to be too rich and the springs too strong.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Thanks for your suggestions.
MG four six eight
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Apr 22, 2024 10:49 PM
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Joern,
I'm probably not much help as I don't have my car running yet, but I'm starting out with TW needles.
Also, have you checked out Mintylamb's SU needle inter active comparison chart yet? It's pretty handy at http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/suneedle/
Bill
Edit, in the screen shot BAD needles are Red, TW is Orange and the standard ST needles is the yellow graph.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-22 10:53 PM by MG four six eight.
I'm probably not much help as I don't have my car running yet, but I'm starting out with TW needles.
Also, have you checked out Mintylamb's SU needle inter active comparison chart yet? It's pretty handy at http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/suneedle/
Bill
Edit, in the screen shot BAD needles are Red, TW is Orange and the standard ST needles is the yellow graph.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-22 10:53 PM by MG four six eight.
Apr 24, 2024 10:49 AM
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Have to look through my paperwork, but I think it was SM.
Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (375 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC
Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (375 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC
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Apr 28, 2024 04:49 AM
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Thanks for your input, I just ordered a set of C1-needles for my carbs. For the time being I managed to tune the carbs with the BAD-needles and get the car running quite satisfactory. I only could drive a short round in workshop area because I need to get some fuel first :-)
Car idles Ok, takeoff is easy, even in 2nd gear from standstill with minimal revs and no juddering or choking at all.
On the 123-app you can also see the ingition advance while revving the engine
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-28 04:56 AM by mgdriver.
Car idles Ok, takeoff is easy, even in 2nd gear from standstill with minimal revs and no juddering or choking at all.
On the 123-app you can also see the ingition advance while revving the engine
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-28 04:56 AM by mgdriver.
Apr 28, 2024 11:47 PM
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Sorry, not a big help as I don't need much idle on my big Healey racer. I have a huge library of SU needles that I'm able fine tune with as I make improvements and upgrades on my 3 liter power plant with.
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Apr 29, 2024 09:04 AM
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When I was choosing needles for the triple carbs, I did it by comparing similar engines in this case the Triumph 2 litre - it has a similar bore and stroke ratio to the MGC (83mm x 92 mm. vs. 83.4 x 89 mm and neither uses siamesed ports. The stock needle for the Triumph was SM and when I used those in the triple carb MGC they fell within easy tuning range based on doing a few clean cuts at speed (on deserted highways early in the morning).
Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (375 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC
Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (375 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC
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