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Phucing red loctite`
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dhen Darian Henderson
San Antonio, TX, USA   USA
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So I got a new harmonic balancer from Fluidampr. There is an extra pulley on the front which is bolted on with hex key screws. I call up the company and they use red loctite but tell me not to heat it or I might damage it. There is fluid inside this harmonic balancer (hence the name.)

So of course I've stripped a couple of heads. I'm tempted to weld a bolt onto the screws that are stuck and to take them out that way, but I don't want to risk damaging my expensive new balancer. I don't care about the extra pulley, though. I don't know if they meant it might damage the finish or if it can mess up the entire unit.

Any ideas?

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
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I would have stuck a soldering gun into it. Not a soldering pencil, a soldering gun.

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dhen Darian Henderson
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Do you think tack welding a bolt on is dangerous? Somehow one of the bolts was almost out and is now stuck.


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mgcyclo Tim Rich
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Why not grind off the screw heads, remove offending pully then grind remaining "stud" flush. A little black paint and no one is the wiser

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dhen Darian Henderson
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I'm not opposed but it would leave an uneven number of bolts.

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260mgb Jim Nichols
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After drilling or grinding the heads off and removing the pulley, you could use vice grips and try to remove them. Or put the other bolts back and leave the pulley on.

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dhen Darian Henderson
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That's a thought. The pulley has to come off for clearance reasons.

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Use a pencil torch, right on the head of the bolt The balance fluid is in the OUTER rim, like a washing machine tub balancer. noT in the area where the bolts are. A pencil torch will concentrate heat to the bolt. You can probably hond it in hand as you heat the bolts. I often use a pencil torch for soldering heaver joints than a gun can provide. smileys with beer

In reply to # 4783450 by dhen Do you think tack welding a bolt on is dangerous? Somehow one of the bolts was almost out and is now stuck.



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dhen Darian Henderson
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Thanks. That helps. The heads are stripped now. Would tack welding a bolt be okay?

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If it was me, I would MIG Weld a BIG nut that almost covers the complete, head. That way, you can get down deep inside the nut, and I am guessing, just the heat alone from the weld will break the Loctite bond. Good luck.

In reply to # 4783516 by dhen Thanks. That helps. The heads are stripped now. Would tack welding a bolt be okay?


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dhen Darian Henderson
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I was thinking the same.

Ugh. Why red loctite? Why?

Thanks

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Loctite softens at 300-350 degrees farenheit so if you stick it in the oven the bolts will become much easier to remove. Should be able to use a punch at the edge of the head to drive it counter-clockwise.

Jim

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Don't use any kind of air or electric impact. Those eat up internal drive fasteners such as allen or torx. You can use a handheld impact driver that you hit with a hammer. If you do not have an impact driver, a speed handle with the correct allen bit provides something to lean on and plenty of leverage.
Have you hit them with a hammer to drive them in yet? A hammer and punch might also help return some of the lost surface area. Valve grinding compound sometimes help eliminate slippage, when things get worn. Hit them square down, driving them into the pully.

Or try welding nuts onto them as Joe says.

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Drill ‘em out. Retap the holes if bolts have to go back in.

In reply to # 4783480 by dhen I'm not opposed but it would leave an uneven number of bolts.


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In reply to # 4787325 by rocannon Drill ‘em out. Retap the holes if bolts have to go back in.

In reply to # 4783480 by dhen I'm not opposed but it would leave an uneven number of bolts.

this + reverse drill bits and heat, might get you there

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