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Loose but might be best to cut off rusty thread or maybe grind off some threads

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three5bangers Steve M
Valhalla, NY, USA   USA
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Just starting. Got gas tank out, want to remove the straps. To my surprise I could turn the bolts a little but then when I start sucking the rusty threads into the nut or captured nut resistance becomes great and maybe l'll just damage the threads in the captured nut. I have a dremel, I think grinding down the treads might be better than trying to cut off the rusty threads. No? I have experience with dremel cut off wheels. Lots of sparks. Might not have any grinding gizmo in stock.

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59mgaguy John Terschak
Wakeman, OH, USA   USA
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1930 Ford Model A "Jenny"
1959 MG 14/28 "Jessie"
1974 MG MGB "Oooops"
Nothing works better the heat when trying to get out bolts and nuts that rusted solid. Cutting or grinding is the last resort. For a small shop most use Mepp gas. Low cost to buy and last a long time.


John

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MG14611 Robert P
NY, NY, USA   USA
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1963 MG MGB MkI "Born To Run"
1963 MG MGB MkI "Potential"
If the threads are deteriorated, you may just need to replace them anyway, perhaps with stainless steel versions.
So if they can be cut off or snapped off, why not do so.

Edit:
BTW I’d be wary of using a hot torch near a fuel tank. Gas fumes and a flame nearby isn’t a good mix!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-30 09:01 PM by MG14611.

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bobs77vet bob K.
northern Va, VA, USA   USA
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The gas tank is removed and out of the way, you are talking about the strap bolt into the cross member captive nut?

Grinding away the threads or cutting off the end of the bolt will work fine, you can also wire brush the threads and lubricate them,

I seem to recall I used a longer bolt with a nut on the end because I broke off the captive nut

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gptwincam George Prussack
Eagle, WI, USA   USA
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1958 MG MGA Twin-Cam
1959 MG MGA Twin-Cam "Merlot"
1959 MG MGA Twin-Cam "POP’S"
Soak them in a little kroil oil then heat, seems to work well on the captive nuts for me.

Regards,

George

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tdgray Todd Gray
Uniontown, OH, USA   USA
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1960 MG MGA "Abigail"
1968 MG MGC GT "Lucy"
1971 BMW 2800CS Coupe
2005 Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG
Kroil is awesome. Man is it getting expensive these days.

If you are in it to win it I would advise buying a real cutoff tool. A dremel is great for small fine work but you need a grinder with a cutoff wheel for nasty rust.

And no I wouldn’t save the bolts…

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three5bangers Steve M
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Thanks guys. Yes, I was talking about the strap bolt into the cross member captive nut. I decided to use a file to remove some of the crusty threads plus some oil and I got the bolts out without ruining the captive nut.

I have a benzomatic torch that takes both the red oxygen and yellow Mapp tanks. I used that on a frozen nut and it was fabulous but the oxygen ran out and the remaining MAPP gas without oxygen seems to burn rich leaving black. Torch time ended early. The red oxygen tanks used to be $10 and now I think they are $16 plus and only have 1.4 oz of oxygen. I think in the past i went through $50 of these quickly. Perhaps a torch designed for MAPP only is the way to go.

Next steps are repainting the underside of the trunk and getting that fill plug out of the differential.

steve

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Drewski Silver Member William Estaver
SUMMERVILLE, SC, USA   USA
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1973 MG Midget MkIII "Maggie"
Wire brush/clean/thread file any accessible threads, and keep hitting them with penetrating oil.

Then repeatedly, and patiently, alternating loosen-tighten-loosen-tighten-loosen right at the point of thread resistance, liberally using penetrating oil. Don't over force rotation. When it binds, stop and loosen again. Repeat.

Sometimes this will gradually clean away the rust fouled threads, and allow extraction.

Afterwards chase the threads in the nut or hole with a tap, and use new fasteners on assembly.

Time consuming, but worth a shot before mauling the bolt or nut.

Chasing and anti-seizing threads throughout the car's fasteners as you encounter them is well worth the time for both reassembly and later tear down.

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