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Concours Level MKII?
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This stunningly restored MKII is available for a mere $64k in The Netherlands. I'd expect that the photos do not do justice to what this car looks like up close & personal, but here comes the but: I'm amazed that a car "restored by an MG specialist and is in concours condition" would have a few very obvious errors in its restoration considering the time, effort & expense which went into this car. If this were just merely restored it would be one thing, but this car in what looks like AH Ice Blue, is done to an extremely high level; I'd love to have this car sitting in my driveway! But back to the obvious: they used the wrong dashboard & they painted it, and then they forgot to cover the scuttle. The engine is listed as the original 1622, but the carbs look like HS4's so maybe that's why the heater line was routed above the valve cover a la MGB; just looks wrong. Most of the hose clamps are correct, while others are not; why? It would appear that the car sports an MGB OD transmission (a good thing), but they give it barely a mention. If I were to spend $64k on an expertly restored MGA, I'd want it expertly restored. All of the errors can be corrected relatively easily; I just don't understand how they could have missed them in the first place.
https://www.erclassics.com/mg-mga-1622-mk2-1962-m6112/
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-25 08:02 AM by copernicus.
https://www.erclassics.com/mg-mga-1622-mk2-1962-m6112/
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-25 08:02 AM by copernicus.
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Quite a few things noticed right off the bat... interior... I think I did a better job on my seats... non carpeted frame rails. The fit on the cockpit rails is ungodly.
As for some of those things... I realize it is not a standard restoration (paint color etc) But to leave things off the firewall and then just cover them up with plugs... looks like you got to the end and gave up.
Now the lines on the car.... very well done. Door and panel fit appears to be of very high quality.
When you ask very high premium money... well you know how that goes with every car club crowd.
As for some of those things... I realize it is not a standard restoration (paint color etc) But to leave things off the firewall and then just cover them up with plugs... looks like you got to the end and gave up.
Now the lines on the car.... very well done. Door and panel fit appears to be of very high quality.
When you ask very high premium money... well you know how that goes with every car club crowd.
Apr 25, 2024 08:23 AM
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Apr 25, 2024 08:30 AM
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Nick,
To the casual observer, it is a very nice MGA. However, considering the offering price and the critical eye of a MGA owner, there are many oversights and restoration errors. The most blatant being-not counting your mention of the incorrect dash and scuttle covering being and considering that it was restored by an "MG Specialist" is that one of the front directionals is upside down. How can even the most casual observer not see this? Note that it has an electronic tach, and as such, I doubt that the engine is of 1622 MGA origin. Also, for the asking price, there should be under dash and chassis pictures.
Don
Look sharply after your own thoughts. They come unlooked for, like the morning dove upon your window sill, and, if you turn to your usual task, disappear; and you shall never find that perception again; never, I say-but perhaps years, ages, and I know not what events and worlds my lie between you and its return.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
To the casual observer, it is a very nice MGA. However, considering the offering price and the critical eye of a MGA owner, there are many oversights and restoration errors. The most blatant being-not counting your mention of the incorrect dash and scuttle covering being and considering that it was restored by an "MG Specialist" is that one of the front directionals is upside down. How can even the most casual observer not see this? Note that it has an electronic tach, and as such, I doubt that the engine is of 1622 MGA origin. Also, for the asking price, there should be under dash and chassis pictures.
Don
Look sharply after your own thoughts. They come unlooked for, like the morning dove upon your window sill, and, if you turn to your usual task, disappear; and you shall never find that perception again; never, I say-but perhaps years, ages, and I know not what events and worlds my lie between you and its return.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Lovely looking!
Though, why take a longer route for the heating core coolant supply line and obstruct the esthetics of that fabulously painted valve cover.
Maybe it's just me but the engine compartment is where I like to spend my time admiring the gubbins.
Beautiful piece of motoring history!
Though, why take a longer route for the heating core coolant supply line and obstruct the esthetics of that fabulously painted valve cover.
Maybe it's just me but the engine compartment is where I like to spend my time admiring the gubbins.
Beautiful piece of motoring history!
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Looks like a car built by someone with a "the factory should have built it like this" attitude with whatever was convenient plus shiny new parts ordered out of a catalog. No telling what has been overlooked or neglected. I would want to be given the keys with the car stone cold and allowed to drive it for a full day under all conditions before deciding if it was worth buying, but at half the asking price. Isn't a pale metalic color used to mask less than perfect body work? And why no flasher?
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It certainly isn't a concours standard 1622.First glance at the engine compartment suggests that the coil is in the wrong place, the oil filter is inverted (MGB?), there is no brass firing order plate and the breather pipe is wrong. Probably not really a 1622.
Nice colour though!
Nice colour though!
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Another used car salesman lied.
Not a surprise.
That car and the term concours don’t belong in the same zip code.
That thing is a good looking restomod.
Non stock,
Engine
Transmission
Dash from 1500/1600
Tach
Alternator
Flasher missing
European tail lights
North American front lights
Modern color.
Exorbitant price, hope he gets it.
I’m sure I missed something wrong
Not a surprise.
That car and the term concours don’t belong in the same zip code.
That thing is a good looking restomod.
Non stock,
Engine
Transmission
Dash from 1500/1600
Tach
Alternator
Flasher missing
European tail lights
North American front lights
Modern color.
Exorbitant price, hope he gets it.
I’m sure I missed something wrong
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Depends on your definition of 'Concours'.
In the early days of the automobile there were competitions of 'Concours d'Elegance'. Essentially custom bodied show cars. In more recent years 'Concours' has morphed in competitions more accurately called 'Concours d'Original' where cars are judged based on strict rules about how the factory built the car.
Anyway, certainly not a Concours d'Original winner...
Eric Russell ~ Mebane, NC
1961 MGA #61, 1981 Alfa Romeo GTV6, 1984 Alfa Romeo Spider, 1991 Honda ST1100
In the early days of the automobile there were competitions of 'Concours d'Elegance'. Essentially custom bodied show cars. In more recent years 'Concours' has morphed in competitions more accurately called 'Concours d'Original' where cars are judged based on strict rules about how the factory built the car.
Anyway, certainly not a Concours d'Original winner...
Eric Russell ~ Mebane, NC
1961 MGA #61, 1981 Alfa Romeo GTV6, 1984 Alfa Romeo Spider, 1991 Honda ST1100
Apr 26, 2024 12:26 PM
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The dealer selling this has 4 MGA's at around $60000 dollars (including this one) and a number of others not far off in price.
https://www.erclassics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mga
https://www.erclassics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mga
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