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Can a single in line Brake servo be permanently removed from an MGB
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adrianm Adrian M
Belchertown, MA, USA   USA
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I think I had a failed single line brake Servo, can I just bypass it by connecting the in and out brake lines together if so should I then cap the hose that goes to the manifold? My understanding is the servo is not required is this correct?



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Re: Can a single in line Brake servo be permanently removed from an MGB
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29desoto Gold Member M Wayne Sanders
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A picture would help. I can't visualize what you're asking.


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MGB567 Barrie Braxton
Ninderry, KabiKabi country, Queensland, Australia   AUS
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AFAIK any booster on a single line system is an aftermarket fitting IE the Factory didn't do it so just revert back to the Factory hydraulics.


Mk1: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67; owned since 3/77. 18GB +40 balanced. Peter Burgess BVFR head. Piper 285. 123. FidanzaFW. 4synch c/r box. Lots more as I did a nut and bolt rebuild; finished 2015. Tartan Red.

GT: December '78. VW Golf guards, flush fit front and rear valances. Torana XU1 vents, frenched indicators & Mk1 rear lights. 'Worked' Rover V8 with Monsoon ECU for EFI. GM4L60E, Lokar tiptronic & Quick4 controller. Vintage Air A/C. FC IFS. CCE 4 link rear. Salisbury with Quaife. Jaguar Storm.



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Re: Can a single in line Brake servo be permanently removed from an MGB
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Did you ever fix the leaking issue?


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When diagnosing issues related to running and stalling, always check to see if you have gas in the tank first.

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adrianm Adrian M
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I think the fluid is getting sucked into the servo unit as that is the only remaining place it could be going as there was no trace

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adrianm Adrian M
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thanks

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allanreeling Allan R
Randlay, Telford, Shropshire, UK   GBR
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Remote Servo I suppose Barrie. They were a factory option, but later standard before the in-line servo/Mc.
If the Servo slave seals leak, the fluid finishes up in the inlet manifold, and thus the combustion chambers. You WILL notice that.


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dickmoritz Platinum Member Dick Moritz
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Single line servo was a factory option, remotely mounted...

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In reply to # 4791215 by MGB567 AFAIK any booster on a single line system is an aftermarket fitting IE the Factory didn't do it so just revert back to the Factory hydraulics.


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MGB567 Barrie Braxton
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In reply to # 4791254 by dickmoritz Single line servo was a factory option, remotely mounted...

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In reply to # 4791215 by MGB567 AFAIK any booster on a single line system is an aftermarket fitting IE the Factory didn't do it so just revert back to the Factory hydraulics.

I stand corrected. I honestly thought they hadn't offered it at the time and that M-E had come up with an aftermarket option - well IDK that it was only a M-E option just that it was fitted after leaving the Factory - my bad.


Mk1: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67; owned since 3/77. 18GB +40 balanced. Peter Burgess BVFR head. Piper 285. 123. FidanzaFW. 4synch c/r box. Lots more as I did a nut and bolt rebuild; finished 2015. Tartan Red.

GT: December '78. VW Golf guards, flush fit front and rear valances. Torana XU1 vents, frenched indicators & Mk1 rear lights. 'Worked' Rover V8 with Monsoon ECU for EFI. GM4L60E, Lokar tiptronic & Quick4 controller. Vintage Air A/C. FC IFS. CCE 4 link rear. Salisbury with Quaife. Jaguar Storm.

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Windmill Jeroen G
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In reply to # 4791161 by adrianm I think I had a failed single line brake Servo, can I just bypass it by connecting the in and out brake lines together if so should I then cap the hose that goes to the manifold? My understanding is the servo is not required is this correct?
A previous owner had installed an aftermarket brake servo on my 1964 car. It didn't work when I bought the car and I was not able to repair the servo. So I brought the car back to stock: removed the servo, made a new brake line from the master cylinder to the T-junction, and capped the vacuum connection at the manifold. I didn't want to leave the too long brake lines in the car, which is why I didn't simply connected them but took them away.

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Not-Anumber Chris S
Southend, South east UK, UK   GBR
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I dont see any complication here, you pay you're money and take your choice.

Remove it = The braking system is a stock, single circuit, servo less system
Replace it = The braking system is a single circuit system with the factory option of servo assistance

Or this might be an opportunity to switch over to a dual circuit MC and mechanical servo. This would also need the later pedal box and pipework.

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adrianm Adrian M
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Thanks my question was about the process of removing the servo In particular the vacuum hose connection

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MGB567 Barrie Braxton
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In reply to # 4791724 by adrianm Thanks my question was about the process of removing the servo In particular the vacuum hose connection

Not how I understood your topic title and Jeroen has first hand Experience but then IDK to whom you're replying.


Mk1: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67; owned since 3/77. 18GB +40 balanced. Peter Burgess BVFR head. Piper 285. 123. FidanzaFW. 4synch c/r box. Lots more as I did a nut and bolt rebuild; finished 2015. Tartan Red.

GT: December '78. VW Golf guards, flush fit front and rear valances. Torana XU1 vents, frenched indicators & Mk1 rear lights. 'Worked' Rover V8 with Monsoon ECU for EFI. GM4L60E, Lokar tiptronic & Quick4 controller. Vintage Air A/C. FC IFS. CCE 4 link rear. Salisbury with Quaife. Jaguar Storm.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-05-01 07:24 AM by MGB567.

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twentyover Greg Fast
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Don't know if the pedal ratio for a factory servo would be the same as a non-servo system. Most power assist systems is a 4:1 ratio for PB cars and about 6 or 7:1 for non-boosted brakes . May want to check, a 4:1 ratio would require a powerful leg

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allanreeling Allan R
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If all you needed to know was concerning the vacuum, I really don't know why you are asking. Plugging the manifold take-off is the easiest part of the process.
The stock remote servo is only 1.6:1 Ratio, and very much doubt whether MG used a different pedal.


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