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Battery Earth / Ground
Posted by Dickim
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Apr 11, 2024 04:04 AM
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What is the correct location for the Battery Earth / Ground Cable - on my recent purchase it is to a metal bracket on the cylinder head - never seen that before!! and due to a ne knee I can't get under it (YET) to see - always had earth / ground cable going to the body (where on a ZB?) and then from the chassis to the drivetrain....
Everything works so clearly there is a drivetrain to body cable somewhere - but given the quality of the fitting of the new loom, NOTHING surprises me - horn & indicator switch not connected, and indicator warning light cur off at relay and shoved behind the trim at the dash end!
Everything works so clearly there is a drivetrain to body cable somewhere - but given the quality of the fitting of the new loom, NOTHING surprises me - horn & indicator switch not connected, and indicator warning light cur off at relay and shoved behind the trim at the dash end!
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Ground to battery box.
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
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Apr 12, 2024 03:44 AM
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That's where mine is too Simon..
In reply to # 4783966 by simon8
Ground to battery box.
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
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Not for the electrical wiring purist/restorer.
The starter motor has the greatest electrical draw of any component on a z series Magnette. Fitting a heavy earth/ground strap directly to clean steel on the bellhousing makes the most electrical sense in combination with a similar sized earth/ground strap from the relevant battery post or the bellhousing attachment point directly to clean steel on the chassis.
If the engine won't crank properly (with a viable starter motor and battery) and you notice the choke cable glowing red hot...then that's the result of a bad earth/ground to the engine block. Consider that the engine is rubber mounted and that rubber doesn't conduct electrical current.
Bad Earth/Grounds are the bane of many classic cars electrical systems. It's best not to be precious where paint and Earth/Ground connections are made to the car's steel chassis/monocoque if you really want efficient and reliable electrics.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-18 05:18 PM by enigmas.
The starter motor has the greatest electrical draw of any component on a z series Magnette. Fitting a heavy earth/ground strap directly to clean steel on the bellhousing makes the most electrical sense in combination with a similar sized earth/ground strap from the relevant battery post or the bellhousing attachment point directly to clean steel on the chassis.
If the engine won't crank properly (with a viable starter motor and battery) and you notice the choke cable glowing red hot...then that's the result of a bad earth/ground to the engine block. Consider that the engine is rubber mounted and that rubber doesn't conduct electrical current.
Bad Earth/Grounds are the bane of many classic cars electrical systems. It's best not to be precious where paint and Earth/Ground connections are made to the car's steel chassis/monocoque if you really want efficient and reliable electrics.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-04-18 05:18 PM by enigmas.
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Mine has this ground here too Simon..
In reply to # 4783966 by simon8
Ground to battery box.
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
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In reply to # 4783989 by Ian Williams
That's where mine is too Simon.. I also need to investigate the push switch at the dash, as it's not always energising the solenoid and I sometimes get just a "click".
Repeated pushing often does operate the starter in the end (much to my relief when I stalled in traffic last week)
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Repeated pushing often does operate the starter in the end (much to my relief when I stalled in traffic last week)
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In reply to # 4783966 by simon8
Ground to battery box.
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
But my engine gets ist ground via a strap between lower bellhouse screw of the gearbox and left side to a screw at the crossmember were the front axle attaches too. Need to check which bracket i used. But no idea if this is original. My mga bridges one of the engine mounts.
Simon
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