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front engine seal #1
dfxit dennis lesuer auburn, ME, USA Sign in to contact	Topic Creator (OP) Mar 31, 2015 12:46 PM Joined 11 years ago 171 Posts

i am in the process of replacing the front engine seal.this seal leaks a lot.will I have to remove the oil pan in order to remove the timing gear cover? the car is a 69 mgc roadster.
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Re: front engine seal #2
ron neal Coastal, SC, USA Sign in to contact 1962 MG MGA MkII 1968 MG MGC 1969 MG MGC 1969 MG MGC GT & more	Mar 31, 2015 02:50 PM Top Contributor Joined 15 years ago 8,009 Posts

Dennis
The pan needs to be dropped due to the relationship between the front cover and front of the pan.
See shop manual section 01.B6 Sometimes the pan gasket gets trashed and needs replacing.
Ron

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Re: front engine seal #3
Mowog6 Patrick Cheffins Auckland, New Zealand Sign in to contact 1969 MG MGC	Mar 31, 2015 04:15 PM Joined 12 years ago 30 Posts

On some cars (even those with manual gearboxes), the sump cannot be totally removed from under the engine with the engine in-situ.

This is even with the engine hoisted off its mounts as high as it will go and with front cover off.

This makes the whole job messy and difficult, but not impossible. I found a cordless impact driver (or drill with torque set *low*) with a long 1/4" extension and socket useful for doing the sump bolts. Oil pump probably need to come off as well or else you'll need to somehow get the gasket around it without tearing it. Have fun!

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Re: front engine seal #4
dfxit dennis lesuer auburn, ME, USA Sign in to contact	Topic Creator (OP) Mar 31, 2015 04:59 PM Joined 11 years ago 171 Posts

I was afraid of that.ive been trying to get the car back together in time for harpers ferry,doesnt look good now. I had planned to pull the engine and trans.for a repaint after I returned.
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Re: front engine seal #5
Mowog6 Patrick Cheffins Auckland, New Zealand Sign in to contact 1969 MG MGC	Mar 31, 2015 05:27 PM Joined 12 years ago 30 Posts

Although it's a "bigger" job, pulling the engine is in many ways easier and will give you more confidence that things are done 'right'.
Presumably just nipping up the front cover bolts a bit tighter hasn't helped in the short term? Cheers

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Re: front engine seal #6
Swamperca Swamper Ca Calimexistan, North Mexico, ----------------- Sign in to contact 1970 MG MGB GT 1971 MG MGB "Rubee" 1974 MG MGB "Groovy B"	Apr 1, 2015 10:51 AM Top Contributor Joined 19 years ago 11,779 Posts

I have always pulled the engine for this type of work. Not saying the pan gasket can't be replaced with the engine in the car. It's just not my personal way of doing things. Laying under the car tying to place a pan gasket upside down in limited access usually results in a leaky outcome.

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Re: front engine seal #7
kirks-auto Robert Kirk (RIP) Davenport, IA, USA Sign in to contact	Apr 2, 2015 05:32 PM Top Contributor Joined 15 years ago 21,573 Posts

Ditto the above. Not a fast easy. VERY superior rear seals are also in market.

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