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...the science behind this endeavor is incredible, fascinating and truly disturbing at the same time....we truly are on the verge of the "pod people"....an ability to completely change the "in the course of human events"...imho... this Nova episode is a must see.

...a sample...

https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/452fm7/askscience_ama_series_im_dr_julia_shaw_a_memory/

I lost my memory a long time ago.

I don't remember

You don't need a pro to jack your memory. I have a relative that is pleasant but she has told stories she made up for so many years that she actually believes them to be true. Things from having cancer (which she did not) to things which people said and did which I and other family members know to be untrue. Sometimes we just look at each other in disbelief at what we just heard. Now about that fity bucks you owe me......member?

....ok you guys, knock it off, this is serious science that can make me a believer in Berni Sanders if I don't watch out, so don't make have to get the fly swatter out again...this time with the dead flys left on it and come after ya...

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How do we know that what she claims to do isn't a false memory she's hacked into us?

This actually happens a lot more than we realize. Ever rewatch a film you saw 30 or 40 years ago and "remember" something that was in the film that mysteriously is missing on second viewing? With time and reinforcement it's pretty easy to change what we remember.

When three older people talk about events they mutually experienced together in their youth, how often do their versions of the story match? Not often.

We all process and modify the same or similar events differently. With "assistance" it would be quite simple to totally change a perception. It's a fascinating and scary subject, and I do take it very seriously, Wyatt.

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Friends talking around a fire is the history of mankind.

In a psychology class, we students were required to interview our parents, or siblings in the case of our parents having passed, about our memories of our growing up years. Called "Family of Origin Studies", the interview questions we were given were pretty standard, but could obviously lead to other questions

Since my parents had passed, I interviewed my brother & sister, whom I have very good relationships with.

I was amazed at how some of my memories of our lives growing up together were different than their recollections. Some were things that one knew and the other didn't remember, but some were outright disagreements about something that happened. Most interesting were differences in our overall views of that period in our lives.

The older the memory, the more it is prone to be "enhanced" either voluntarily or involuntarily.

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Hmm..............brainwashing as a science......................facebook as a distribution medium.............just add thought police, and Orwell's work is done.

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1968 MGB Purchased already dis-assembled but which is largely back together so I'm a lot less ignorant.

...if its available on line I suggest that you all take a hour of your day to watch it, then read my linked article....we watched semi dropped jawed last nite...but we had no heads up, which may account for some of the intense scrutiny..

and yes melbaver,(or was that melbecky??) I agree, but imho the good that can come from the science must let it proceed, but with every caveat under the sun that you can....think of...

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Friends talking around a fire is the history of mankind.

How do you remember that?

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