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Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #1
bz226 Brett Z Charlotte, NC, USA Sign in to contact 1976 MG MGB	Topic Creator (OP) Dec 8, 2016 07:44 PM Joined 7 years ago 134 Posts

Replacing SU fuel pump with a a Hardi pump, which is shaped like SU. Turns out their is no standard mg bracket holding my old SU pump in. Old owner just put a hose clamp around top of pump where it pokes through to the trunk. Anyone have a photo of how the original clamps worked in a 76mgb? Where they connnected and where they attached to car? Heard of Banjo clamps but don't know how and where they attach.

Can't use old owners method on new fuel pump.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #2
MGB567 Barrie Braxton Ninderry, KabiKabi country, Queensland, Australia Sign in to contact 1966 MG MGB MkI "Money Guzzler" 1979 MG MGB GT V8 Conversion "Darkside"	Dec 8, 2016 07:50 PM Top Contributor Joined 13 years ago 32,679 Posts

Is the pump you're adding like the original SU and you want to mount it near the battery box? If so here's the bracket arrangement. Dave DuBois has pics of the correct orientation on his pages but that's for SU not Hardi (which I don't know). Of course later cars had a different mounting system.

Mk1: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67; owned since 3/77. 18GB +40 balanced. Peter Burgess BVFR head. Piper 285. 123. FidanzaFW. 4synch c/r box. Lots more as I did a nut and bolt rebuild; finished 2015. Tartan Red.

GT: December '78. VW Golf guards, flush fit front and rear valances. Torana XU1 vents, frenched indicators & Mk1 rear lights. 'Worked' Rover V8 with Monsoon ECU for EFI. GM4L60E, Lokar tiptronic & Quick4 controller. Vintage Air A/C. FC IFS. CCE 4 link rear. Salisbury with Quaife. Jaguar Storm.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #3
bz226 Brett Z Charlotte, NC, USA Sign in to contact 1976 MG MGB	Topic Creator (OP) Dec 8, 2016 08:00 PM Joined 7 years ago 134 Posts

Thanks for the reply.
Who is Dave Dubois and how do I access his pages?

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #4
bz226 Brett Z Charlotte, NC, USA Sign in to contact 1976 MG MGB	Topic Creator (OP) Dec 8, 2016 08:01 PM Joined 7 years ago 134 Posts

Its mounted near battery box going through to trunk.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #5
MGB567 Barrie Braxton Ninderry, KabiKabi country, Queensland, Australia Sign in to contact 1966 MG MGB MkI "Money Guzzler" 1979 MG MGB GT V8 Conversion "Darkside"	Dec 8, 2016 08:19 PM Top Contributor Joined 13 years ago 32,679 Posts

DD is MGE's resident SU guru; I just assumed you would know. Here's a link. His signature block when he posts has a link to his pages.

Mk1: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67; owned since 3/77. 18GB +40 balanced. Peter Burgess BVFR head. Piper 285. 123. FidanzaFW. 4synch c/r box. Lots more as I did a nut and bolt rebuild; finished 2015. Tartan Red.

GT: December '78. VW Golf guards, flush fit front and rear valances. Torana XU1 vents, frenched indicators & Mk1 rear lights. 'Worked' Rover V8 with Monsoon ECU for EFI. GM4L60E, Lokar tiptronic & Quick4 controller. Vintage Air A/C. FC IFS. CCE 4 link rear. Salisbury with Quaife. Jaguar Storm.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-08 08:20 PM by MGB567.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #6
LmBoise Louis Miller Boise, ID, USA Sign in to contact 1963 MG MGB	Dec 8, 2016 08:25 PM Joined 10 years ago 832 Posts

X2 on Dave D. Here is his web site URL. http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/

IIRC the SU slips through a large rubber gromet and is secured with a large clamp. Some had a clamp like Moss part #377-350.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #7
ddubois Dave DuBois (RIP) Bremerton, WA, USA Sign in to contact	Dec 8, 2016 09:46 PM Joined 18 years ago 7,282 Posts

Bret - I don't know just when the mounting position of the SU fuel pumps changed from just in front of the tight rear wheel to the trunk. Both installations require a large grommet, but the two grommets are different. If you say that the Hardi pump is slightly smaller than the original SU pump, you will have to shim either grommet to fit the Hardi Pump. The link that Barrie sent shows both grommets. If your pump mounts through the forward bulkhead of the trunk, you want grommet marked 56 in the lower left square, along with hose clamp marked 57 (any hose clamp of the correct size can be used to hold the pump in place).
Cheers,

Dave DuBois
1953 MGTD
1966 MGB
http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #8
Donthuis Don van Riet Rijswijk, ZH, Netherlands Sign in to contact 1972 MG MGB MkIII	Dec 9, 2016 11:08 AM Top Contributor Joined 10 years ago 13,336 Posts

I also changed from tradional SU to electronic Hardi and noted the slightly smaller diametre of the body of the Hardi. Still I could tighten the clamp for the SU just enough (after taping the Hardi well I must admit). It is wise to have a roll of this tape in black or metallic in your garage. So a piece of "gaffer" tape is all the extra you need, but of course in addition to the proper bracket and the rubber grommet that goes with it.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-09 11:10 AM by Donthuis.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #9
bz226 Brett Z Charlotte, NC, USA Sign in to contact 1976 MG MGB	Topic Creator (OP) Dec 9, 2016 12:15 PM Joined 7 years ago 134 Posts

Thanks. My challenge though is trying to figure out where the clamp is supposed to attach to the car, as it did not have a clamp previously.

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Re: Anyone have a photo of the bracket holding an SU fuel pump in place in 76 mgb? #10
Be Coming Kelvin Dodd So. Calif., USA Sign in to contact 1957 MG MGA 1957 MG MGA Coupe 1958 MG Magnette 1958 MG Magnette ZB & more	Dec 9, 2016 12:46 PM Top Contributor Joined 17 years ago 7,210 Posts

Brett. The rubber bumper cars have a purpose made rubber grommet that is inserted into the hole in the trunk rear wall. The body of the pump is passed into it from the outside, then a clamp goes around the rubber to keep the pump in location.

The items are listed here: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29002

377-370 is the rubber grommet
377-380 is the clamp

I've added images of what they look like in situ. Sorry, I don't have an image without the fuel pump cover in place. You can see the edge of the grommet though.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-09 12:47 PM by Be Coming.

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