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I AM DESPERATE RIGHT NOW...SOS..SOS...SOS...How to bleed slave cylinder???

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CarverBoldman Carver Boldman
Kirbyville, MO, USA   USA
Tell you what, I'll buy you guys a round of your choice of beer if you can come over and help me! The expense will be worth the sorrow of not driving the MG. @chas 906, you described it perfectly, do you just screw it back in?

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infinity2018 Joe T
Denver, CO, USA   USA
1979 MG Midget 1500 "Inca"
In reply to # 3711976 by CarverBoldman Tell you what, I'll buy you guys a round of your choice of beer if you can come over and help me! The expense will be worth the sorrow of not driving the MG. @chas 906, you described it perfectly, do you just screw it back in?

Or you could just keep driving it like I do. I have to turn it off at stoplights occasionally to put it in gear, I can't downshift, and almost every other gear grinds, but at least I can drive and enjoy it....

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Chas 906 Chuck Peterson
Iron Mountain, MI, USA   USA
1961 MG Midget MkI "Little Red Rider"
Yes Carver. If it is the ground cable, as with my '61, you just remove one of the nearest tranny bolts and slip the ground cable over the bolt and tighten up. As Peter pointed, out your car is different from mine in several ways. I'm not sure yours has the same cable. Anyway, glad to help out.

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Blueosprey90 Jeff Sienkiewicz
New Milford, CT, USA   USA
Your desperate plea caught my attention.

There is a video on the Moss Motors site on how to bleed the clutch slave cylinder - but the video part of the site seems to be down. This should be the share link. Try it later or tomorrow.

Are you sure it is not your master cylinder that has failed? Perhaps disconnect the slave and have a friend apply somewhat gentle pressure to the pedal to see if fluid is flowing to the slave.

CarverBoldman Carver Boldman
Kirbyville, MO, USA   USA
Will definetely try all of these options. Thanks. (I could still use more though!) @Blue Osprey, is the car in your i.d pic yours????

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Blueosprey90 Jeff Sienkiewicz
New Milford, CT, USA   USA
Carver, this is from the MGB forum, but is generally what am referring to. https://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?2,3711476

Since I'm only familiar with the '59 MGA, my comments may be off base for your "modern" '75 midget, so proceed with a grain of salt.


Yes, that is my car in the avatar. That's me turning into the pits at Pocono. Here's the back story. smiling smiley


***

There is one truth in the world – and this is it: YOU DO NOT WANT ME ON YOUR TEAM! I’m too unreliable; the risk of failure is too great – your hopes of winning will be dashed!

So how is it that I’m running the first leg in a 15 lap Relay Race on Sunday morning? Don’t ask me - but I’m sure not telling my two teammates about that One Truth in the World!

What kind of race is this anyway? We’re lined up in single file and will have a standing start once the green flag falls. Am I in Australia?

I’m behind Ben Bragg’s Old Gray Mare, a 1935 Reuter V8 Special. He’s way faster than me and the two other cars running this leg. We’re sitting there and my brain is spinning trying to figure how I can even keep him in sight.

But the flag drops and we are off. My transmission is screaming as never before as we move up the gears.

The signs fly past in reverse order on the outer wall! “Pocono”, “Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint” - “What Turn 4?” “Turn 3 Pocono” “NASCAR” “Turn 3” “Pocono” “Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint”! You’re up through the gears and if you could put the foot through the floor, you couldn’t go faster!

Look up! You’re not that far behind! Now look for the signs behind the fence: ”Pepsi”….. “Pepsi”… Now look for the opening! Thread that needle when you see the edge of the grass! You’re picking up some of the gap so keep the foot to the floor!

The double transition to the infield throws the car wildly. But dive for Turn 2, hard brake and downshift. Hard turn right with tires Screaming through the apex. Unwinding but almost off at track out.

Full throttle in third at Redline to Turn 3. Hard brake and hard left. Tires screaming and fighting the car on the rough pavement.

Now switch sides for Turn 4. Brake and hard right on even rougher pavement! A mistake here means the wall! Use all of the rumble strip at track out.

Now a sweeping left for Turn 5: Bouncing through on rough pavement, still in third – surprisingly tires still complaining.

Here’s the trick! He’s still not that far ahead! Need momentum through the next turn. But turn in is big time bouncy and That Wall! Hard right, in third, almost full throttle: Tire screaming. Aim for the far right of “Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint/Sprint” and you're through. Whew! To redline in third and up-shifting at about 70 and he’s still is sight! What, maybe 4 or 5 seconds?

Take a breath, check the gauges, everything looks OK. He has to slow down for Turn 1 – You don’t!

So fly into the infield at just about full throttle. Car bottoms out on the transition and is thrown left! Hard brake and hard right at Turn 2 with tires screaming and just about off track at track out. Up-shift to 4th charging WOT to the Lefthander. Too hot to brake, downshift and make the hard left turn. You’re careening four off!

Second 1: Keep racing! So back to the throttle!
Second 2: OOPS! 270 degree spin and pointing the wrong way:
Seconds 3-5: Reverse S with tires spinning
Second 6: Jason coming into Turn 3 with his too beautiful ’35 MG P-Lester boat-tail to risk anything stupid.
Seconds 7-10: Wait for Jason and John in his Volvo PV544 sedan to pass.

But they’re past and we have our second standing start – only this time on the grass and gravel!

Back on track and thinking (stupidly?) “You can still come in second!” What lap are we on anyway?

Work hard and pick up Jason on lap 4; and then pick up John at the very beginning of lap 5: Our car is simply faster. But now we still have to drive fast with no mistakes through the difficult infield section.

Catch a glimpse of the Old Gray Mare and our mind is racing! Can we catch him on the final sprint?

Turning into Pit Lane and the Old Gray Mare is parked on the concrete. Ben Bragg about half way in his lumbering across the tarmac. See, we’re supposed to pull up, jump out and sprint about 70 yards to hand off our “baton” to the next driver. I don’t know what Ben is doing, but it ain’t sprinting!

So I’m out of the car like it’s on fire and then sprinting like a chain gang prisoner with my arm restraints towards the hand off. I slap the baton into Jim’s hand and he is off - at most just ten seconds behind!


My team mates Jim Juhas (’57 MGA) and young John Buckley (’55 Austin Healey 100A) acquit themselves well. Jim takes the lead on the track, but gives up a little in the final sprint. John pulls out about 4 seconds ahead of the Lotus 18. He’s driving the race of his life as he holds off the Lotus 18 for two laps! He’s going to be a few seconds behind as he comes into pit lane, but I’m positive his young legs can carry us to victory!

***

Well, somewhere in this favored land the sun was shining bright;
The band was playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts were light,
And somewhere men were laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But irregularities - lack of bribes - my Relay Team's nosed out! **

GeorgeOhr Nonya Business
Yes, confused, USA   USA
In reply to # 3712048 by Blueosprey90 Your desperate plea caught my attention.

There is a video on the Moss Motors site on how to bleed the clutch slave cylinder - but the video part of the site seems to be down. This should be the share link. Try it later or tomorrow.

Are you sure it is not your master cylinder that has failed? Perhaps disconnect the slave and have a friend apply somewhat gentle pressure to the pedal to see if fluid is flowing to the slave.

That's the same thing I'm taking about, however; doesn't require a second person. The thing about the 1500 though is it has to be removed to get to the piston or linkage as I stated earlier.

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infinity2018 Joe T
Denver, CO, USA   USA
1979 MG Midget 1500 "Inca"
I know this might sounds crazy, but I fixed my clutch without even doing anything to it. Like I said an an earlier post, My clutch was not letting me shift into gear, I had to turn it off at stop signs to get it into first, it would grind going into and out of gears etc... But I left it parked for a week and a half facing upwards on a hill, and now when I took it to drive today, it shifts great... I'm thinking that maybe being parked uphill might have let any air bubbles come up to the reservoir....

GeorgeOhr Nonya Business
Yes, confused, USA   USA
or you have a leak that is letting the air out (which is my bet as mine did the same thing)

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sam-i-am Sam L
Caledonia, Wisconsin, USA   USA
I went back and read all the help being offered (including my own) and found that there was one point not mentioned. The clutch arm/pedal and clutch master push rod. If the pivot holes are oval instead of round you may never get enough stroke to either engage the clutch or get all the air out. Hope this helps.

Sam.

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Chas 906 Chuck Peterson
Iron Mountain, MI, USA   USA
1961 MG Midget MkI "Little Red Rider"
Your right Sam. First thing I did was remove the master cylinder from the pedal box and replace the clevises. Then removed the pedal box and took apart the clutch and brake pedals. The holes in both were oblong enough to warrant a repair. I opened up the holes to accept a bronze press in bushing. (From McMaster-Carr). Also changed out the slave rod and clutch fork as they to were oblong. Everything tightened up nicely. Easy job.

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Aburgmg Gary Ayers
Amherstburg, ON, Canada   CAN
Had the same problem, nice weather not able to drive
Removed the old steel line to the slave from master and replaced it with a flex line with steel 90 degree bends on the ends.
Loosely connect the tube to the slave and master both, allow the fluid to fill the line, place in tranny holder and tightened the connections.
Removed from holder and hold it outside of the fender where you can keep it above the master. Compress the piston and hold. Open bleeder and have someone pump the clutch SLOWLY. Close at the end of the clutch pedal is fully depressed.
Be sure to keep master full. Shouldn't take any time before the air is gone. To check, try and hold back on the piston and pump the clutch a bit. You'll find it really hard to hold back. Reinstall in holder and just put bolt in for now, no nut. Push on clutch pedal. Should have LOTS of pressure. Install the nut, CRUISE ON Mger

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flat350 Steve Alleman
Schaumburg, IL, USA   USA
Put a remote bleeder kit on my 71 last week,was done in under 30 min. and that included bleeding it,clutch works great.



1971 MG Midget MKIII

Mojan Mojan Norouzi
Fremont, CA, USA   USA
To bleed the clutch use Ez-bleed I have mentioned this many many times.
Trust mesmiling smiley

CarverBoldman Carver Boldman
Kirbyville, MO, USA   USA
OK, I think I'll buy an Ezi-bleed thing. How do you go about using one?

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