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Lou65 Lewis Fenech
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia   AUS
1966 MG MGB "Maggie"
Hi all
my brother is looking at a MGA 1962 Mk2 and i am having a hard time decoding the numbers, wondering if anyone can Help please

the tag on the firewall:20838
engine tag: 16ANHY6055s
then there is a tag on the engine oil cooler: ARH113-201-4909

any help please

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ghnl Silver Member Eric Russell
Mebane, NC, USA   USA
1961 MG MGA "Calvin"
For almost anything knowable about the MGA check the MGA Guru's Tech Pages: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/

The number on a plate spot welded to the vertical firewall - near a bonnet hinge - is the body number. The car's VIN should be stamped onto a plate attached to the horizontal firewall. That plate was attached with small screws/nuts (not rivets, not welded) which means it can sprout legs and go on a walk-about... The digits of the VIN were stamped on the horizontal part of the frame forwards of the right side seat. But they were very lightly stamped and are often long gone if the frame has either been stripped, sanded or sand blasted.

See: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101.htm

VIN plate:


I have no idea about the numbers on the oil cooler but they would not in any way identify the car or engine.

And there are differences to accomodate Australian laws.
Quote: Australian built CKD cars had a different Vehicle ID Plate to conform to local law. Here the vehicle type number was on the first line. The second line contained the MG Car Co factory chassis number and the assigned Austrlian car number. The chassis number and Australian car number were also stamped on the heater shelf, front and center. Prior to 1962, the chassis number was also stamped into the near side chassis member in the front wheel arch (the left hand side). Third line contined the engine number. The engine number was also stamped on the engine, as the factory type riveted plate was not allowed. Last line contained the body color.



Eric Russell ~ Mebane, NC
1961 MGA #61, 1981 Alfa Romeo GTV6, 1984 Alfa Romeo Spider, 1991 Honda ST1100

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HAC286 Garry Kemm
Victoria, Australia   AUS
Tag on vertical part of firewall: if it is definitely 20838, then this suggests a very early body probably early 1956, not 1962.
Engine number with prefix 16ANHY suggests a replacement engine from an Austin sedan or similar.
Can you supply any more details, maybe photos??

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Tbird ET Taylor
Land O Sky, NC, USA   USA
According to the info from NAMGAR 20838 could be used on early 1500 or late 1600 MGA's
(guess they ran out of numbers - grinning smiley )

http://www.namgar.com/articles/article/mga_history/mga_chassis_vin_engine_body_number/




Also Barney mentions on his site that the oil cooler for the Australian 1600 CKD cars had a supplemental sticker similar to the one on the car you are looking at.

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ckd/ckd102m.htm


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mgaex189 Platinum Member Giovanni Delicio
Obrigheim, Rheinpfalz, Germany   DEU
1955 MG MGA 1500 "C2"
1955 MG MGA 1500
1955 MG MGA 1500 "C1"
1960 MG MGA 1600 Coupe    & more
Please post a pic of the Body#

It could be 20838 or B20838.

If it's 20838 then it was built in November 1955.

If it's B 20838 then it was built on 24.March 1960

Gio

TonyCap Tony Capuano
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia   AUS
This is the body tag number that is on the car.


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TonyCap Tony Capuano
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia   AUS
Here are some pictures of the car.

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Zur Dave H.
Amarillo, TX, USA   USA
Very nice car...



Dave
"WTF?"

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mgaex189 Platinum Member Giovanni Delicio
Obrigheim, Rheinpfalz, Germany   DEU
1955 MG MGA 1500 "C2"
1955 MG MGA 1500
1955 MG MGA 1500 "C1"
1960 MG MGA 1600 Coupe    & more
This car body is from 1955 !!

It is for sure NOT a MKII hot smiley


Sorry for that, but it's a nice looking car and you may enjoy it.


Gio

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barneymg Barney Gaylord
(Somewhere in USA), Pick one (or more), USA   USA
1958 MG MGA "MGA With An Attitude"
It is probably a bitsa car. We know the engine is not original. The body number tag was always spot welded to the bulkhead. Why would anyone drill out the spot welds and rivet the tag, other than to change the body number? Maybe the bulkhead panel was replaced, and they were trying to retain the original body number? Even then, the body number is from a 1500 car.



Barney Gaylord - 1958 MGA with an attitude - http://MGAguru.com - barneymg@mgaguru.com

TonyCap Tony Capuano
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia   AUS
Thanks for the replies, they are very helpful.

So you guys think it's just a 1500 car made to look like a MKII car?

I have posted some pictures of the engine bay for comments?

Is it definetly a 1955 body?


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oleanderjoe Gold Member Joseph Baba
Fresno, CA, USA   USA
Forget about the numbers. That is a very nice looking car. GET IT. DRIVE IT. ENJOY smileys with beer


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barneymg Barney Gaylord
(Somewhere in USA), Pick one (or more), USA   USA
1958 MG MGA "MGA With An Attitude"
Look at the vertical firewall just outboard from the flasher unit. A 1500 body would have two small holes top to bottom about 4-inches apart, originally to attach the 1500 type turn signal relay unit.

Look at the shutface plates at rear of the door openings. The MK-II body should have a slight depression around the edges, like a little rain gutter, where 1500/1600 cars had flat surfaces there.

Vertical orientation of the bonnet proprod implies 1958 or later high crown bonnet (after introduction of the Twin Cam).

You may want to replace the pancake air filters, as they are restrictive to intake air flow.

What is the rectangular gadget on the inner fender, just aft of the radiator? Electric fan relay, maybe?

Original style oil cooler piping implies a late production 1600-MK-II (although it could be rare option on earlier cars).



Barney Gaylord - 1958 MGA with an attitude - http://MGAguru.com - barneymg@mgaguru.com

TonyCap Tony Capuano
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia   AUS
Hi Barney,
If it is a bitsa MGA hopefully is a besta bitsa MGA...
The rectangular gadget on the inner fender is an electric fan temperature sensor controller.

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Grubeguy Gold Member Grube Guy
Washington, DC, USA   USA
OK, ok, it's not worth much, admittedly. I'm going to offer to take it off your hands. Please have the title ready.

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GORGEOUS color combo - I'm jealous smiling smiley

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