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myklos Silver Member Michael LoSapio
Endwell, NY, USA   USA
Need advice. I have a complete front suspension from a 77 MGB that is removed from the car. Any advice on how to disassemble? Can it be done safely without spring compressor?

Mike

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MGB567 Gold Member Barrie Braxton
Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1966 MG MGB MkI "Money Guzzler"
1979 MG MGB GT V8 Conversion "Darkside"
There is so much previous advice on suspension disassembly - search is your friend. At the risk of opening up the box of popcorn no spring compressor necessary. The springs are under very little tension but there are others who don't believe that and they come up with all sorts of methods to stop the springs going boing. A normal spring compressor doesn't fit.



Convertible: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67. Owned since 3/77. 90% original sheet metal. 18GB +40 balanced with almost all new internals. Peter Burgess big valve fast road head. Piper 285. Fidanza FW. Basil's followers and pushrods. TR7clutch. TT exhaust. ARP everywhere. 123 ign. Needham 4synchro c/r box.. Stock rebuilt/replaced suspension. Superpro bushes. New brakes all round including all pipes in SS flex. Interior redone. CAMS approved roll bar and side bars. Lots more. Hybrid of o/e and show/fast road car. Not for sale - it's my toy!

GT: UK car built/sold December '78. Stripped back to bare shell (with extensive bodywork to come). Powered by 'worked' Rover 5 litre V8 (ex TVR Chimera) with efi. T5 box. FC IFS. CCE rear attached to Salisbury axle with Quaife. And a whole lot more to yet to come. Stealth is the word.

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LmBoise Gold Member Louis Miller
Boise, ID, USA   USA
1963 MG MGB
1977 MG MGB "Trouble"
I have done three sets without a compressor. I attached ratchet straps that you use to tie stuff down with. When releasing the tension it was very anticlimactic. Both times the cross member was still attached to the car, but the engine was out.

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balloonfoot Gold Member Lloyd Faust
Southlake, TX, USA   USA
No need for anything other than an air ratchet or something to undue the 4 shock bolts. Take them off and the shock will 'pop' up a bit but no big deal. Takes about 1 minute to do both sides. You will probably get all kinds of solutions involving some sort of restraint. Nothing is needed.



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chris Platinum Member Chris Roop
Pendleton, OR, USA   USA
I use a drift to knock out the pin at the top of the shock. Moves about an 1".


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NOHOME P P
O, ON, Canada   CAN
1967 MG MGB GT "Maggie (GT From Hell)"
Lloyd convinced me to just unbolt the shock bolts many years ago. I will admit that I cringed the first time, but it is a non-event.

So, no, you do not need a spring compressor.

Pete

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chris Platinum Member Chris Roop
Pendleton, OR, USA   USA
And no problems messing up the threads doing it that way? That concern is why I use a drift.


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Ahmed Silver Member Ahmed EL Abasiry
Chestermere, AB, Canada   CAN
1958 MG MGA
1972 MG MGB
1979 MG MGB
I did the exact same thing. Used ratchet straps to take up the tension, but there was hardly any. Still, use them anyway just in case.



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NOHOME P P
O, ON, Canada   CAN
1967 MG MGB GT "Maggie (GT From Hell)"
In reply to # 3717972 by chris And no problems messing up the threads doing it that way? That concern is why I use a drift.

Was also a concern when I did it the first time but once again, not an issue.


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melbaver Gold Member Chris Howells
Broadwater NSW, Australia   AUS
1968 MG MGB "Moneypit"
1996 Jeep Cherokee "Shopping Trolley"
Easy peasy, see a nut undo it, see a bolt extract it. Only wrenches needed, maybe a rattle gun if the PO was 300 lbs of wrenchmania.



Chris Howells

1968 MGB Purchased already dis-assembled but which is largely back together so I'm a lot less ignorant.

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Defender405 Silver Member Chris B.
Des Moines, IA, USA   USA
1975 MG MGB
You do however need a spring compressor to put it back together if you don't have an engine in the car. I tried and even with a person standing on the bumper there wasn't enough weight to compress the spring and get the top bolt in. Surprised the heck out of me, of course that was with new springs.



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1975 MGB
1979 Porsche 924
1999 Porsche 996
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Soling2003 Gary M
Pahoa, HI, USA   USA
Or a ratchet strap. I put mine back together a few weeks ago with a ratchet strap 1
with the unit off of the car, no problem. I took the springs out without a strap easy. Just moved an inch or so. Did three from different years that way, all a piece of cake. Go for it!

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MGB567 Gold Member Barrie Braxton
Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1966 MG MGB MkI "Money Guzzler"
1979 MG MGB GT V8 Conversion "Darkside"
"You do however need a spring compressor to put it back together if you don't have an engine in the car"

That may be your Experience but those of us who use the physics that Lloyd outlined oh so many years ago with strategic placement of jack stands at the rear of the leaf springs would suggest otherwise irrespective of engine in or out. Assuming that you're not assembling the front suspension off car. ICR the best method for that exercise but search will know.



Convertible: CKD 11/66 first registered 8/5/67. Owned since 3/77. 90% original sheet metal. 18GB +40 balanced with almost all new internals. Peter Burgess big valve fast road head. Piper 285. Fidanza FW. Basil's followers and pushrods. TR7clutch. TT exhaust. ARP everywhere. 123 ign. Needham 4synchro c/r box.. Stock rebuilt/replaced suspension. Superpro bushes. New brakes all round including all pipes in SS flex. Interior redone. CAMS approved roll bar and side bars. Lots more. Hybrid of o/e and show/fast road car. Not for sale - it's my toy!

GT: UK car built/sold December '78. Stripped back to bare shell (with extensive bodywork to come). Powered by 'worked' Rover 5 litre V8 (ex TVR Chimera) with efi. T5 box. FC IFS. CCE rear attached to Salisbury axle with Quaife. And a whole lot more to yet to come. Stealth is the word.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-17 02:34 AM by MGB567.

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melbaver Gold Member Chris Howells
Broadwater NSW, Australia   AUS
1968 MG MGB "Moneypit"
1996 Jeep Cherokee "Shopping Trolley"
In reply to # 3718419 by Defender405 You do however need a spring compressor to put it back together if you don't have an engine in the car. I tried and even with a person standing on the bumper there wasn't enough weight to compress the spring and get the top bolt in. Surprised the heck out of me, of course that was with new springs.

Not necessarily (again stolen from Lloyd) put your jacks at the very rear of the car and with judicious of timber planks you can re-install the springs without any compression device. I knew there was a Moment in Physics Class that would come to the rescue.



Chris Howells

1968 MGB Purchased already dis-assembled but which is largely back together so I'm a lot less ignorant.


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melbaver Gold Member Chris Howells
Broadwater NSW, Australia   AUS
1968 MG MGB "Moneypit"
1996 Jeep Cherokee "Shopping Trolley"
Apologies Baz, didn't see your post.



Chris Howells

1968 MGB Purchased already dis-assembled but which is largely back together so I'm a lot less ignorant.

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