Had a new pair of TF gearbox mount rubbers which were purchased several years ago ,but never used .
Also had a new front engine mount ,which is considerably softer & more flexible when compared to the gearbox ones.
Very recently purchased another new pair of gearbox mounts from Moss & they are as hard / inflexible as the older ones.
Have no experience of TD/TF yet , but I had been thinking that if the rubbers are too hard / inflexible , that engine vibration will be transmitted to the chassis.
Interested to hear other peoples' experiences.
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TD / TF gearbox support rubbers very hard
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Glenn W
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Yes, the new offerings are hard and almost impossible to install. They have to be trimmed to fit by trial and error. I gave up installing mine and put the originals back in as they were still serviceable. I would love to hear of the "trick" to get these installed.
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George B
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These rubbers have been hard and oversized for many years. They usually need to be trimmed or ground down to fit. George
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It is probably cheap Chinese crap as usual and they didn't consider the shore grade. We had the same issue with Morris Minor engine mounts for years until somebody finally woke up. You can always pop the originals in the washing machine with plenty of fabric softener (Lenor) and they come out lovely. Send the "lady of the house" to walk the dog beforehand
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Glenn W
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions , including the plug for Lenor & how to avoid detection !
Seems a pity that no one makes softer ones , have to think that the hard ones must transmit vibration into the car.
What shore grade should they be ? Suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to make a couple from a lump of the correct stuff !
Seems a pity that no one makes softer ones , have to think that the hard ones must transmit vibration into the car.
What shore grade should they be ? Suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to make a couple from a lump of the correct stuff !
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Bill Chasser
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The only thing that needs to be done is a very slight radius on the lower outside edge. Be glad they are hard. If they were soft they would disintegrate in a very short period of time.
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Bill,
I'm not inclined to agree with you on that. I would not anticipate premature failure if they are made to the right specification. I would think about 70° shore would be about right. I have a set (repro) in the garage somewhere and will measure them on a durometer.
I had terrible problems with resonance on my Morris Minor and it took me years to find the problem. I replaced the propshaft, wheels, tires,dampers etc, a rather costly experience and in the end it was tie-bar bushes which were too hard. I ended up making my own (60°shore) and have had 8 years peace and quiet since. The repro bushes on the market are still wrong to this day and I am not the only one who had such problems.
Glenn,
You can also drill holes in the rubber to increase the flexibility (in case you haven't got a dog)
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Declan
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-12 12:26 AM by Declan Burns.
I'm not inclined to agree with you on that. I would not anticipate premature failure if they are made to the right specification. I would think about 70° shore would be about right. I have a set (repro) in the garage somewhere and will measure them on a durometer.
I had terrible problems with resonance on my Morris Minor and it took me years to find the problem. I replaced the propshaft, wheels, tires,dampers etc, a rather costly experience and in the end it was tie-bar bushes which were too hard. I ended up making my own (60°shore) and have had 8 years peace and quiet since. The repro bushes on the market are still wrong to this day and I am not the only one who had such problems.
Glenn,
You can also drill holes in the rubber to increase the flexibility (in case you haven't got a dog)

Regards
Declan
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-12 12:26 AM by Declan Burns.
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If, like me, you were not replacing originals but were installing new ones on a blank canvas it is quite easy to (attempt to) fit the rubbers in several orientations, only one of which is actually correct. Ask me how I know....
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I didn't have much trouble installing the new mounts in the TF, but I put the engine and transmission in a bare chassis which made it easier mounting the rubbers. I agree the new ones are harder than the originals, but quite an improvement over what I took out. The front was a no brainer, the back mount took more time getting it oriented correctly. I don't notice any difference in engine dampening from the old ones. I think the MGB was more of a pain on the back mount. PJ
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George B
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It is important that the new rubbers fit well down enough into the steel mount box so that the through bolt does not end up overtightened. I have seen a couple without trimming that would not even expose enough thread to catch the nut. Overtightening will cause vibration. Also check the mount box carefully for cracks. George
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Glenn W
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Thanks all for the input , some good tips !
Had considered drilling holes alright Declan , incidentally no dog here , was adopted by a cat several months ago ,it walks unaccompanied
Had considered drilling holes alright Declan , incidentally no dog here , was adopted by a cat several months ago ,it walks unaccompanied

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