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LaVerne LaVerne Downey
Fruita, CO, USA   USA
1954 MG TF "Green Hornet"
1969 MG MGB
1979 Triumph TR8 "Wedgie"
I bought a 3/4" bar from Moss a few years ago and it wasn't correct and I sent it back after confirming the other 3/4" bars they had in stock were built the same way. When mounted it would push the link back at a severe angle and into the bump stop bracket.

Bought one from BPNW after confirming some measurements with them first. The welding was pretty unimpressive on both and looks to have been made at the same location.

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mgv8glen Gold Member Glenn Towery
Dover, DE, USA   USA
I have the same problem on my GTs. Turn the wheel left or right, lock, the sway bar & rack gator mash & in time the gator starts leaking oil. The fix I see is adding 1/2 to 3/4" to the link that goes from the lower A arm to the sway bar to hold the sway bar up where the rack will not hit the sway bar. OR don't turn to lock!

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uktrumpetman Nigel A
near Worcester, Worcestershire, UK   GBR
Update

.My neighbour and I explored all possibilities this morning and have concluded that the ARB not fit for purpose

I am going to refit the original with new bushes. Need to order a new set of steering rack gaiters as both are holed.

Receipt kept for the 3/4 - will be retuning it to seller.

All the best

trumpet

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rocannon Platinum Member Frank .
Clairvius Narcisse Township, Bokor, St. Kitts and Nevis   KNA
1967 MG MGB GT "GT From Hell"
1980 MG MGB "Restored By Photoshop Inc."
While you have the two out, compare them. Be interesting to see.

In reply to # 3889053 by uktrumpetman Update

.My neighbour and I explored all possibilities this morning and have concluded that the ARB not fit for purpose

I am going to refit the original with new bushes. Need to order a new set of steering rack gaiters as both are holed.

Receipt kept for the 3/4 - will be retuning it to seller.

All the best

trumpet



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uktrumpetman Nigel A
near Worcester, Worcestershire, UK   GBR
Good idea Frank - I'll take a photo and post it here during the week and we can all discuss in depth


Also what is the standard size for a RBumpered 1978 B GT anti roll bar? I've measured it at 0.436 inches - 7/16? Sound about correct?

BTW I forgot to thanks everyone that took the time to post - really appreciated.. Just got to top up the swear box in cash ready for the next episode that these lovely vehicles throw at us

All the best

rocannon Avatar
rocannon Platinum Member Frank .
Clairvius Narcisse Township, Bokor, St. Kitts and Nevis   KNA
1967 MG MGB GT "GT From Hell"
1980 MG MGB "Restored By Photoshop Inc."
Moss lists a 5/8" bar. In this forum recall seeing 9/16".

Just measured the GT at 0.64". The bar, however, looks newish; probably been replaced at some point.

In reply to # 3889163 by uktrumpetman Good idea Frank - I'll take a photo and post it here during the week and we can all discuss in depth


Also what is the standard size for a RBumpered 1978 B GT anti roll bar? I've measured it at 0.436 inches - 7/16? Sound about correct?

BTW I forgot to thanks everyone that took the time to post - really appreciated.. Just got to top up the swear box in cash ready for the next episode that these lovely vehicles throw at us

All the best



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-10 12:54 PM by rocannon.

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chris Platinum Member Chris Roop
Pendleton, OR, USA   USA
I think stock was 9/16". Boy you do move around Frank.


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PB49 Peter B
Marlow, Buckinghamshire, UK   GBR
1978 MG MGB
Nigel. Here is a photo of my 3/4" ARB. This one fitted without any problems. Is it the same shape as yours? It would seem to bend less severely away from the end.


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rocannon Platinum Member Frank .
Clairvius Narcisse Township, Bokor, St. Kitts and Nevis   KNA
1967 MG MGB GT "GT From Hell"
1980 MG MGB "Restored By Photoshop Inc."
Ha! I’m retired, and it’s too cold and wet out to go outside. What else am I going to do... start putting out fires?moon

In reply to # 3889254 by chris I think stock was 9/16". Boy you do move around Frank.



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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
Early B front anti-sway bar was 9/16". Late B ('77-'80) was 5/8" with 11/16" rear bar.

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uktrumpetman Nigel A
near Worcester, Worcestershire, UK   GBR
Hi again
update

Original ARB newly bushed up with eye bushes and poly bracket mount bushes - ran out of time today so refit later in the week.

New steering rack gaiters fitted, track rod ends able to be reused. Ready to fix up later.

The standard size for a UK 1978 BGT is 5/8"

Full refund on the 3/4"

Thanks to all for your help, should be ready to fit new bearings, discs and 4pot calipers at the weekend (which was where I was a week ago!)

As promised here's some pictures

All the best Nigel


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oleanderjoe Gold Member Joseph Baba
Fresno, CA, USA   USA
NIGEL: Looks like they did not use a big enough "DOG" when they bent the leg ??????smileys with beer

In reply to # 3890393 by uktrumpetman Hi again
update

Original ARB newly bushed up with eye bushes and poly bracket mount bushes - ran out of time today so refit later in the week.

New steering rack gaiters fitted, track rod ends able to be reused. Ready to fix up later.

The standard size for a UK 1978 BGT is 5/8"

Full refund on the 3/4"

Thanks to all for your help, should be ready to fit new bearings, discs and 4pot calipers at the weekend (which was where I was a week ago!)

As promised here's some pictures

All the best Nigel



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rocannon Platinum Member Frank .
Clairvius Narcisse Township, Bokor, St. Kitts and Nevis   KNA
1967 MG MGB GT "GT From Hell"
1980 MG MGB "Restored By Photoshop Inc."
Confused. One bar looks new, the other old. New looking bar is bushed and from that detail is the oiginal bar. But old looking bar has the bracket mount bushes, and eyes look like what I’d expect on an original bar.



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ClayJ Silver Member Clay Johnston
Mt. Olive, MS, USA   USA
1972 MG MGB
I agree, looks like the upward kink that would clear the tie-rod is missing from the new bar in post 26, third picture down.

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spikemichael Platinum Member Michael Caputo
Ocean Shores, WA, USA   USA
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In reply to # 3890572 by ClayJ I agree, looks like the upward kink that would clear the tie-rod is missing from the new bar in post 26, third picture down.

also more severe initial (innermost two) bends. Something fishy in Worcester and it isn't fish and chips.



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