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MGSerge Serge V
Maaseik, Limburg, Belgium   BEL
Does the oil line from the oil gauge to the engine , have a P clip on the bulkhead, or is iT

Just laying around in front of the bulkhead

Serge V

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3066james Gold Member Jim Cheatham
Amelia, VA, USA   USA
There should be a p-clip. Here’s a picture of mine,

Jim


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barneymg Barney Gaylord
(Somewhere in USA), Pick one (or more), USA   USA
1958 MG MGA "MGA With An Attitude"
Two P=clips. On on the heater shelf, and one on the rear side of the bulkhead. This prevents the pipe from wobbling on both sides of the bulkhead, saves the rubber grommet in the bulkhed, and prevents chafing of the pipe on the edge of the metal bulkhead.



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3066james Gold Member Jim Cheatham
Amelia, VA, USA   USA
Here’s the one under the dash that Barney is referring to. This is the original oil line on my car, coils and all.

Jim


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MGSerge Serge V
Maaseik, Limburg, Belgium   BEL
Jim ,

I throught the P clip on the heater shelf was for the water temperature line , or schould there also be 2 like on the rearside of the bulkhead

Serge V

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barneymg Barney Gaylord
(Somewhere in USA), Pick one (or more), USA   USA
1958 MG MGA "MGA With An Attitude"
Both pipes want two P-clips, one on heater shelf and one behind the bulkhead. The two behind can be on a common screw.



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Don MGA 1600 Silver Member Don Tremblay
Rutland, Rutland, USA   USA
1960 MG MGA "My Oldest Friend"
1962 Jaguar E-Type "Rich Bitch"
Serge,

Here are a few pictures from my '60 MGA that may address your questions relative to showing the clip locations. Best regards, Don



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3066james Gold Member Jim Cheatham
Amelia, VA, USA   USA
Serge,
I routed my temperature sensor line a little differently than Don’s. It may not be correct for a 1500 but it’s what I did. I ran the temperature sensor line under the 4” fresh air hose to a p-clip on the front edge of the heater shelf and from there through a special clip I bought from Moss that I attaches to the lower heater valve bolt and then forward to its point of insertion into the head.

Yes, I converted to an 1800 3-main engine and an alternator.

Jim


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Don MGA 1600 Silver Member Don Tremblay
Rutland, Rutland, USA   USA
1960 MG MGA "My Oldest Friend"
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Serge,

Confirming Jim's comments above, I also ran the temperature capillary tube to the edge of the heater shelf to a clip in the same location as Jim's, that is in this instance shared with my "flash to pass" relay. From there to the clip under the heater control valve- same as Jim and then traveling to the front of the cylinder head. Don


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MGSerge Serge V
Maaseik, Limburg, Belgium   BEL
Ok tanks all

Serge V

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Pawtucket, RI, USA   USA
Dear Don & Jim,

What's the correct routing for the 1500 MGA water temp capillary tube, I bought that heater valve clip for the tube but Bill Mack says it's not right for the 1500 and it should run along the inner fender under the big air duct, haven't put the big air duct in yet, but planning the start up of the new engine this week.

Does anyone know?

Cecelia

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3066james Gold Member Jim Cheatham
Amelia, VA, USA   USA
Cecelia,
Here’s an illustration from Todd Clarke’s book that shows the routing. Note that he indicates that the temperature sensor line has two possible routes. At the bottom, he says “check for punched hole in heater box shelf or wheel arch to determine original routing for your vehicle”.

Jim

In reply to # 3873491 by Cecelia Bruce Dear Don & Jim,

What's the correct routing for the 1500 MGA water temp capillary tube, I bought that heater valve clip for the tube but Bill Mack says it's not right for the 1500 and it should run along the inner fender under the big air duct, haven't put the big air duct in yet, but planning the start up of the new engine this week.

Does anyone know?

Cecelia


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Don MGA 1600 Silver Member Don Tremblay
Rutland, Rutland, USA   USA
1960 MG MGA "My Oldest Friend"
1962 Jaguar E-Type "Rich Bitch"
Cecelia,

The only reason why 1500's and early one's at that had their capillary tube run along the right side inner fender was that it hadn't dawned on anyone yet at MG to simply add a clip under the water valve to make the routing more efficient and protective.

The questions are:

* When was the clip under the heater valve on the cylinder head added? The 1600 and Twin Cam Factory Parts Book Section "O" show the clip. The 1500 Parts Book listed in MGA Guru does not.
* Did cars without heaters have the clip mounted to the bottom fastener of the blanking plate? I would venture, yes.

Per Todd's mention in the diagram that Jim provided, this change or epiphany on MG's behalf must have happened early on. Certainly prior to 1958 since its listed in the T/C book.

Don



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HAC286 Silver Member Garry Kemm
Victoria, Australia   AUS
The part number for the clip is BHA 4081 and it is listed on page O3 of the 1500 Parts Book, but is not illustrated.
The 1500 Parts Book also notes the clip was introduced at chassis #49148.
Also, even though it is shown in the Factory Twin Cam Parts Book, it is a mistake, the clip was not used on the Twin Cams.

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Pawtucket, RI, USA   USA
Dear Gary,

Thank you for your info, since my car is 33352, a 1957 model, it would not have been fitted, in fact I did find that part #BHA4081 in the 1600 SPL but also shown with AHH5802 another related part to that clip.
So...I guess I will route it not along the engine block thru the AHH4081 clip that attaches to the lower bolt of the heater water valve, but along the inner front wheel arch. Somehow it has to make it's way across from the cylinder head to the inner fender wall and eventually under one of those P clips on the heater shelf before passing thru the bulkhead. Will take a look at it again before fitting the large air duct.

Cecelia

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