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drooartz Drew Frink
Mountains, UT, USA   USA
In reply to # 3861163 by mrmg1965 What diff are you running? I’m pulling 3700 at 70 with my rib case and a 3.9 diff. I have a 5 speed on the shelf waiting for funds to buy Gerard’s kit... but if I only gain a couple hundred RPM, I might leave it be.

Diff is the stock 4.22. Tires are 175/70R14. I find the gearing perfect for where I live, high elevation with steep grades. 4th will pull most grades, 4k in third will climb anything. My motor seems to settle in at 3500 and feels smooth and happy.

I've got a 5-speed and one of Gerard's kits to go into my Bugeye when I finally get there. On that one I will use a 3.9 diff due to the smaller wheels/tires (Morris uses 14"winking smiley.



Drew's RHD Garage: '59 RHD Bugeye, '66 RHD Morris Minor, '70 RHD MGB -- yes, there's a pattern here...

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Yankeedriver Platinum AdvertiserAdvertiser Joel Young
Albuquerque, NM, USA   USA
In reply to # 3861288 by drooartz One thing to be aware of in the Minor is that while the engine bay is wide (originally designed for a flat-4 engine that never happened) it is not very long. The A-series just fits -- so if thinking of a blower you need to be conscious that space will be tight fore and aft. I don't know if the Moss setup (for example) would really fit. Might, but it would be very tight. My Bugeye has more room.

Drew,

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I will be running my own DIY supercharger setup, which uses a compact Eaton M45 designed for the Mercedes SLK230, but that, unlike Moss's system, is mounted on the ignition side of the A-series to enable use of an intercooler (from an Audi A4). Here are a couple of photos. The blower is considerably shorter than the A-series engine and is mounted at ~ 70 degrees to fit under the Spridget's sloping bonnet.

I'm done but for the redesigned blower mounts, which got sidetracked most recently by a death in the family. Hoping to finish them this weekend.

Whoa - a horizontally opposed four in the Moggy? Do you know the distance between the narrowest points side to side in the engine bay, down where a flat four would sit? If you could fit a Subaru DOHC engine in there, even with the naturally aspirated version you'd have an incredibly reliable and economical 175 h.p. runner with factory EFI. My 1998 went for 275,000 before I sold it, and didn't smoke a bit. You can grab an engine from the NM or CO pull-n-pay for $200 and get everything you need to run the engine for around $300.

Joel



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Spitz Matthew T
PA, SK, Canada   CAN
Internet pornography right there!

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johnnyw637 Silver Member John Warner
Norwich, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Morris Minor Traveller "Boris 2"
1964 MG Midget MkI "Flying Midge"
1964 MG Midget MkI
Looks wonderful Joel,

The flat four was replaced by a 918 cc side-valve inline-four engine in the Moggy, from 1948 to 1953 (known as series MM). The better Austin A series engine then replaced the Morris one.
For me the best replacement engine would be a Ford Ztec (superb in the Catterham 7 and perfect for the Moggy). However, I know absolutely nothing about blowers, but sure that the bonnet would be adaptable, with some help from an angle grinder smiling smiley

Johnny

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johnnyw637 Silver Member John Warner
Norwich, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Morris Minor Traveller "Boris 2"
1964 MG Midget MkI "Flying Midge"
1964 MG Midget MkI
In reply to # 3861896 by Spitz Internet pornography right there!

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Yankeedriver Platinum AdvertiserAdvertiser Joel Young
Albuquerque, NM, USA   USA
In reply to # 3861901 by johnnyw637 Looks wonderful Joel,

The flat four was replaced by a 918 cc side-valve inline-four engine in the Moggy, from 1948 to 1953 (known as series MM). The better Austin A series engine then replaced the Morris one.
For me the best replacement engine would be a Ford Ztec (superb in the Catterham 7 and perfect for the Moggy). However, I know absolutely nothing about blowers, but sure that the bonnet would be adaptable, with some help from an angle grinder smiling smiley

Johnny

Johnny,

Oh, no - if it'll fit under the Spridget's bonnet, there'd be scads of room under the Moggy's ample dome.

Joel


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drooartz Drew Frink
Mountains, UT, USA   USA
In reply to # 3861883 by Yankeedriver Sorry, I should have been more clear. I will be running my own DIY supercharger setup, which uses a compact Eaton M45 designed for the Mercedes SLK230, but that, unlike Moss's system, is mounted on the ignition side of the A-series to enable use of an intercooler (from an Audi A4). Here are a couple of photos. The blower is considerably shorter than the A-series engine and is mounted at ~ 70 degrees to fit under the Spridget's sloping bonnet.

Whoa - a horizontally opposed four in the Moggy? Do you know the distance between the narrowest points side to side in the engine bay, down where a flat four would sit? If you could fit a Subaru DOHC engine in there, even with the naturally aspirated version you'd have an incredibly reliable and economical 175 h.p. runner with factory EFI. My 1998 went for 275,000 before I sold it, and didn't smoke a bit. You can grab an engine from the NM or CO pull-n-pay for $200 and get everything you need to run the engine for around $300.

The flat four never went into production, but that was part of the original plan. Lots of VW thinking at the time.

Here's a pic to show the width (this is from when I was pulling the engine out a couple years ago). Lots of width, and you've got a lot of height under the bonnet.





Drew's RHD Garage: '59 RHD Bugeye, '66 RHD Morris Minor, '70 RHD MGB -- yes, there's a pattern here...

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johnnyw637 Silver Member John Warner
Norwich, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Morris Minor Traveller "Boris 2"
1964 MG Midget MkI "Flying Midge"
1964 MG Midget MkI
True,
But will it be ready for the great 66 run ?

Have a wonderful Christmas mate

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johnnyw637 Silver Member John Warner
Norwich, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Morris Minor Traveller "Boris 2"
1964 MG Midget MkI "Flying Midge"
1964 MG Midget MkI
Drew,
Think that the fact that Britain was still suffering from rationing due to the war deprivations, had a lot to do with the final engine choice as the old 30s Morris 8 engine only needed a few modifications and it could get 40 miles to the gallon. Important for the home market at the time, even though you were likely to have to wait up to 6 years for delivery.

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BruceM Bruce McFarland
Covington, WA, USA   USA
The suspense is killing me.


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johnnyw637 Silver Member John Warner
Norwich, Norfolk, UK   GBR
1960 Morris Minor Traveller "Boris 2"
1964 MG Midget MkI "Flying Midge"
1964 MG Midget MkI
Just back from a local meeting at a dinner on an industrial estate (sounds good doesn't it smiling smiley GRIN).

As was pointed out appreciate how lucky we are to get out over here. Lots of variety, lots of Americana, more MGs than I thought plus a good variety.

Took the topless 64 Midge my neighbour his 64 Herald estate. Saw a few mates there so all good.

Left and grabbed so lunch at an old Norfolk County pub. Only about 35 miles in total, but wonderful.

Even fixed the tachometer which had been playing up on my return.

All the best Johnny



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mrmg1965 Gold Member Steve Strublic
Peoria, AZ, USA   USA
1965 MG Midget "Gidget"
2011 Mini Cooper S "Nigel Whitworth"
Lovely photos, Johnny.

I sit waiting for a new fuel pump. sad smiley But I got my new CoverCraft car cover, and it fits perfectly. smiling smiley

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Richh52 Richard Hammond
Rockford, IL, USA   USA
Doing a complete restoration on a 1967 Midget. I got it cheap from a relative who acquired it along the way so to speak. I have recently retired and was looking for a car project. The car drove and ran when I got it but it would start to miss unexpectedly and I wondered if I would make it back home at times. I did a compression test and found the third cylinder to be only half the others. I then pulled the head off to fond what looked like someone drove a screwdriver down the side of #3 & 4 pistons. I pulled the engine out and stripped it. Surprise surprise, there were only three rings that were still in one piece for the four cylinders. I measured the cylinder walls with snap gage and found about .015" taper is them all. Knowing this was too much to hone, I decided to send the engine out for rebuild. I now have it back, seems to run fine. While the engine was out I found a museum in England online that could give me a certificate of the car when it left the factory. After receiving the cert, I checked all the serial numbers of components and chasis. To my surprise, they all matched! The car was somewhat original. The body color had been changed and the interior as well. I decided to put everything back to original. When stripping the paint, excessive amounts of filler had been used to fill in some dents. I found 1984 license plates riveted in a couple places. Someone had done a revamp prior and not very well. I am still plugging away at it with a lot of materials already purchased working steadily on the body. Haven't gotten to the point of paint yet. The color will be Old English White with Red interior w/ White Piping. Can't wait to see it finished. Hoping for this spring some time. Wish me luck, Rich


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Spitz Matthew T
PA, SK, Canada   CAN
Great job !

Red seats with white piping.......bold !

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refisk Rick Fisk
Frankenmuth, MI, USA   USA
Welcome Richard. Looks like you're making good progress on your restoration. I know a couple of Spridget guys in the Rockford area, but they aren't MGE members. Come out to Blackhawk Farms Raceway in South Beloit next June for the VSCDA vintage race and you can meet a bunch of Spridget nuts (me included). smileys with beer


In reply to # 3881447 by Richh52 Doing a complete restoration on a 1967 Midget. I got it cheap from a relative who acquired it along the way so to speak. I have recently retired and was looking for a car project. The car drove and ran when I got it but it would start to miss unexpectedly and I wondered if I would make it back home at times. I did a compression test and found the third cylinder to be only half the others. I then pulled the head off to fond what looked like someone drove a screwdriver down the side of #3 & 4 pistons. I pulled the engine out and stripped it. Surprise surprise, there were only three rings that were still in one piece for the four cylinders. I measured the cylinder walls with snap gage and found about .015" taper is them all. Knowing this was too much to hone, I decided to send the engine out for rebuild. I now have it back, seems to run fine. While the engine was out I found a museum in England online that could give me a certificate of the car when it left the factory. After receiving the cert, I checked all the serial numbers of components and chasis. To my surprise, they all matched! The car was somewhat original. The body color had been changed and the interior as well. I decided to put everything back to original. When stripping the paint, excessive amounts of filler had been used to fill in some dents. I found 1984 license plates riveted in a couple places. Someone had done a revamp prior and not very well. I am still plugging away at it with a lot of materials already purchased working steadily on the body. Haven't gotten to the point of paint yet. The color will be Old English White with Red interior w/ White Piping. Can't wait to see it finished. Hoping for this spring some time. Wish me luck, Rich

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