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Clacksman Avatar
Clacksman Silver Member Andy Dear
Central Scotland, UK   GBR
1957 MG Magnette ZB "Maggie - Aren't They All?"
I just came across this thread which among other things lists the various vehicles that use the same type of temperature sender as the Z Magnette. May be of use if someone knows of one of these vehicles being scrapped?

https://www.morganexperience.com/forum/morgan-4-forum.5/morgan-plus-4-temp-gauge-1958-and-sender.11307/

See Post #4



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Ian Williams Ian W
Chipping Longjourney, Toofarupnorth, UK   GBR
That's helpful Andy

I've ordered a temp gauge for a 13/60 Triumph, with a plan to fit the gauge face from my ZB..
Optimistic, I know, but I figure I can then use a standard sender with it..

Calibration may be tricky, but currently I don't have a working gauge at all.. It's worth a try..


In reply to # 3889124 by Clacksman I just came across this thread which among other things lists the various vehicles that use the same type of temperature sender as the Z Magnette. May be of use if someone knows of one of these vehicles being scrapped?

https://www.morganexperience.com/forum/morgan-4-forum.5/morgan-plus-4-temp-gauge-1958-and-sender.11307/

See Post #4

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mcquaid James Jans
Hood River, OR, USA   USA
Ian: I used a MGB sender from Moss Motors for about $8.99 part # 131-565 and then took a gauge out of a MGB and placed the guts in the ZB housing. I even pulled the needle from the ZB unit so has to match the other ZB gauges.
Now the gauge reads cold until the motor warms up.

Hope this helps.

Jim Jans
'58 ZB
Hood River, OR



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Big Ed Avatar
Big Ed Ed Brorein
NJ, USA   USA
Hi,

Just to inform folks here, I have been producing a replacement temperature sender for the Magnette, so there is no need to modify your original temperature gauges. I have been selling them through MG Specialists in the UK, who specialize in Magnette ZA's and ZB's. I know they're out of them at this time but I will be completing more before long, so be patient if you want to go this route!

Thanks and regards,
Ed

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Muzz Murray Cowley
Tavistock, Devon, UK   GBR
1958 MG Magnette ZB "Maggie"
WOW Ed,

if it's NTG you are supplying to, they are charging the punters over £150 for one!

A trifle steep, I think I would find another solution, but that's just me being tight maybe!



Cheers,
Murray

58 ZB,
rebuilt 3 brg MGB engine
5 speed gearbox
3.9 rear axle
Cruises at 80mph @ 2600 revs

Big Ed Avatar
Big Ed Ed Brorein
NJ, USA   USA
Hi Murry,

No, I have not been supplying them to NTG.

Regards,
Ed

Clacksman Avatar
Clacksman Silver Member Andy Dear
Central Scotland, UK   GBR
1957 MG Magnette ZB "Maggie - Aren't They All?"
The last time I saw an original NOS Magnette temperature sender sold it went for approx £120, and
that was a good few years ago! MG Specialists is run by Peter Martin, but I don't know what he charges when he has them in stock.

Ian Williams Avatar
Ian Williams Ian W
Chipping Longjourney, Toofarupnorth, UK   GBR
I just can't afford NTG prices unfortunately

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paddyreardon Paddy Reardon
Calne, Wiltshire., UK   GBR
1933 Morris Minor "Evie"
1956 MG Magnette ZA
Since I bought my ZA, back in 2004, I have had a Morgan version of the TT1200 sender fitted. Over the years I have acquired 4 more senders on Ebay, one Morgan and 3 Magnette. I have not seen one for sale for at least 3 years.

The Morgan unit has a Lucar bullet fitting instead of the tiny BA screw and is calibrated a bit cooler, the gauge needs to be adjusted to accommodate the variation. I believe the Morgan one is installed in the top of the radiator.

To switch to the standard MBG sender, it is ideal if you can get a Farina Magnette gauge, it is an identical installation but with the MGB type works inside. It is even possible to swap the face over if desired. I have been told the fuel gauge can be made to work with the temperature gauge face.

Ian, If you want one of my spares, let me know. I sent one over to David Bishop a few months back, still one left.

Paddy

Big Ed Avatar
Big Ed Ed Brorein
NJ, USA   USA
Hi Paddy,

I too, have found the Morgan sender to be calibrated colder than the Magnette sender. I do not know why Smiths decided to to that but they probably had their reasons. This goes contrary to what is stated in the posting on the Morgan site saying they are all the same. And yes, they have the bullet connector instead of the small screw on top.

Regards,
Ed

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58ZBMITCH Gold Member Michael Mitchell
Etna, CA, USA   USA
1958 MG Magnette ZB "NENA-CHULA"
1989 Toyota Pickup 4WD "NENA"
2009 Nissan Murano
i DON'T Know Y i have to keep RE-Sending......thiZ Message, I've Told Ian,
and Everyone Else......Ed Brorein IZ the Man, for Your ZB Temp. Sending Unit'Z.
Michael. M/K.

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58ZBMITCH Gold Member Michael Mitchell
Etna, CA, USA   USA
1958 MG Magnette ZB "NENA-CHULA"
1989 Toyota Pickup 4WD "NENA"
2009 Nissan Murano
Ian, ?Are U Reading my MessageZ??
M/K.

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58ZBMITCH Gold Member Michael Mitchell
Etna, CA, USA   USA
1958 MG Magnette ZB "NENA-CHULA"
1989 Toyota Pickup 4WD "NENA"
2009 Nissan Murano
Duuuuh,...... Ed, Guezz NO One Readz my Message'gZ, (even U Jimmy).
I Purchased my UNIT from Ed.....Manny Many Yer'Z Ago.
M/K.

Ian Williams Avatar
Ian Williams Ian W
Chipping Longjourney, Toofarupnorth, UK   GBR
Yes Micheal... reading your messages with interest..� have contacted Ed but he has none spare currently..
Paddy... I will be in touch.. thanks

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David8831 David Halliday
Thame, Oxfordshire, UK   GBR
I bought one of Ed’s senders from Peter. It’s a lovely piece of work and it works a treat.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-12 03:28 PM by David8831.

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