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1744 Gold Member Bill Guzman
CA, USA   USA
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TCru Tom C
Charlotte, NC, USA   USA
1968 MG Midget "Sold - Seeking Replacement..."
1972 Porsche 911 "Sold - Went Home To DE"
2016 Toyota Tacoma 4WD "My Current Daily (Bone Stock)"
Hey Guys,

Great topic and information. Most impressive.
I've been following this thread why I do my planning and acquisitions.
Any recent updates ?



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Jim Blackwood * BlownMGB-V8
Gunpowder Rd, Florence, KY, USA   USA
So is this a Mazda motor? I've heard that was where Ford got it.

Jim

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Jeepstang Gary Alvino
Beverly Hills, FL, USA   USA
Jim,
It's Mazda designed known as the MZR engine. Ford shared the basic architecture when designing the Ecoboost 4 cylinder but I believe that's where the similarities ends. Fortunately for us, the Mazda Miata transmissions from 2006-2014 match the block bolt pattern on the 2.0 Ecoboost, saving time & money adapting the transmission.
Gary

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TCru Tom C
Charlotte, NC, USA   USA
1968 MG Midget "Sold - Seeking Replacement..."
1972 Porsche 911 "Sold - Went Home To DE"
2016 Toyota Tacoma 4WD "My Current Daily (Bone Stock)"
It seems like most people are leaning towards the 250HP - 2ltr. Turbo motor (Focus ST or equivalent).
As opposed to the 160HP 2ltr N/A motor (Focus SE).

I know most of these are swaps into "B" where my target vehicle is a Midget (recreating the car of my ill spent youth).
I'm leaning to the N/A both for overall size and ease of conversion - don't need to fit or pipe the turbo and I/C.

Any thoughts, ideas, warnings ?



Old Chinese Proverb:
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step…
Old Mechanics Proverb:
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Jeepstang Gary Alvino
Beverly Hills, FL, USA   USA
A whole lot easier but the big stumbling block for any of these swaps is you still need an ECU and harness to run it.
As for fitting it in a Midget, OMG, there's just not enough room in a B, good luck with a Midget...

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ohlord Gold Member Rob C
North of Seattle, N.W., USA   USA
1957 Land Rover Series I "EYEYIYI"
1971 MG MGB
1971 MG MGB "Bedouin 2"
You can also use the T5 or TKO
Stronger and more gearing choices
With nearing 400ft.lb of tq.
It comes in handy
The money is well spent
In reply to # 3881847 by Jeepstang Jim,
It's Mazda designed known as the MZR engine. Ford shared the basic architecture when designing the Ecoboost 4 cylinder but I believe that's where the similarities ends. Fortunately for us, the Mazda Miata transmissions from 2006-2014 match the block bolt pattern on the 2.0 Ecoboost, saving time & money adapting the transmission.
Gary



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TCru Tom C
Charlotte, NC, USA   USA
1968 MG Midget "Sold - Seeking Replacement..."
1972 Porsche 911 "Sold - Went Home To DE"
2016 Toyota Tacoma 4WD "My Current Daily (Bone Stock)"
In reply to # 3884905 by Jeepstang A whole lot easier but the big stumbling block for any of these swaps is you still need an ECU and harness to run it.
As for fitting it in a Midget, OMG, there's just not enough room in a B, good luck with a Midget...


Actually, Ford has the same Crate Engine Kit program for the N/A as the turbo.
Engine and Control Pak only $3600...



https://www.fordracingbyspeedshopdirect.com/2_0L_TiVCT_GDI_I_4_Engine_and_Control_Pack_Kit_p/m-9000-20tivct.htm



Old Chinese Proverb:
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step…
Old Mechanics Proverb:
The building of a thousand cars begins with the first socket…

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Jeepstang Gary Alvino
Beverly Hills, FL, USA   USA
Tom,
I think you'll find the parts have been discontinued by Ford, only the 2.3 Ecoboost controls pack is still available
Gary

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TCru Tom C
Charlotte, NC, USA   USA
1968 MG Midget "Sold - Seeking Replacement..."
1972 Porsche 911 "Sold - Went Home To DE"
2016 Toyota Tacoma 4WD "My Current Daily (Bone Stock)"
Gary,


You are correct Sir (in my best Ed McMahon voice).

I've seen a few sites still advertising the kit. I need to contact them to see if any still have it in stock.
Also I think I should see if Ford Performance has any of the Control Packages.
Or maybe even if the Turbo Package will work with the N/A?

The Control Pak is all I really need, the engines are common enough.

I'm not fixed of the EcoBoost, really only trying to avoid the Ecotec because the dimensions I have seen is its much taller.
If anyone has other info please share.
I trying to plan the easiest swap / path of least resistant. And I don't want to mess with the classic lines of the MG.


Thanks
Tom



Old Chinese Proverb:
The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step…
Old Mechanics Proverb:
The building of a thousand cars begins with the first socket…

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ohlord Gold Member Rob C
North of Seattle, N.W., USA   USA
1957 Land Rover Series I "EYEYIYI"
1971 MG MGB
1971 MG MGB "Bedouin 2"
Easiest path
Go where the others blazed the trail
BOPR or 3.4 gm rwd
Starting from scratch and fitting an engine rarely used is for those with fabrication skills, time,tools, patience etc etc
A kit that many have used makes it easier


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In reply to # 3886728 by TCru Gary,


You are correct Sir (in my best Ed McMahon voice).

I've seen a few sites still advertising the kit. I need to contact them to see if any still have it in stock.
Also I think I should see if Ford Performance has any of the Control Packages.
Or maybe even if the Turbo Package will work with the N/A?

The Control Pak is all I really need, the engines are common enough.

I'm not fixed of the EcoBoost, really only trying to avoid the Ecotec because the dimensions I have seen is its much taller.
If anyone has other info please share.
I trying to plan the easiest swap / path of least resistant. And I don't want to mess with the classic lines of the MG.


Thanks
Tom



"I'm a long way gone down this wild road I'm on
It's gonna take me where I'm bound
It's a long way around"



"These are the days that must happen to you"

RD2 Radar/ Electronic Warfare Technician
Vietnam 1969-1972



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-05 09:34 PM by ohlord.

mickri Chuck Losness
Squaw Valley, CA, USA   USA
For a midget an inline 4 cylinder is the easiest swap. You need to decide how much horsepower you need to achieve your intended usage of the car. Then pick an engine that will provide that and see if it fits. Also remember that a midget only weighs around 1500 lbs. It doesn't take nearly as much HP as a bigger car like an MGB to get truly amazing performance. Search the forum for midget swaps and you will find a wide variety of engines that have been swapped into a midget. Everything from Datsun A15's to Ford and Chevy V8's I am swapping an old school Toyota 3TC into my midget. I'll have 80 to 90 hp when I am done and expect to have a fun quick car for street driving.

Have fun with your project.

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MG-Maxx Silver Member Charles Waugh
West Haven, CT, USA   USA
1979 MG MGB MkIII "Rumpelstiltskin"
2008 Chevrolet HHR
while not an ecotech shows when someone says ‘Yea, it’ll fit’




Chuck
Hamden, CT

79 MGB - Rumpelstiltskin
Just awakened after a 10 year slumber.
GM 60V6 Gen 3 - 3.5L EFI V6 T-5.



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1744 Gold Member Bill Guzman
CA, USA   USA
1973 MG MGB GT "Renegade I GT"
1974 MG MGB "Renegade"
C & J ponies may have it in stock


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TCru Tom C
Charlotte, NC, USA   USA
1968 MG Midget "Sold - Seeking Replacement..."
1972 Porsche 911 "Sold - Went Home To DE"
2016 Toyota Tacoma 4WD "My Current Daily (Bone Stock)"
Rob
I think a V6 kit is "B" only and in a Midget would be tough. Also I want to keep the body lines as stock as I can.

Chuck
Thanks for the ideas. I realize the Midget wont take alot to improve (that's one of the reasons I only wanted the NA Motor Vs. the Turbo).
One of my main objects also is to get a new / modern motor like the EcoBoost.

Bill
Thanks for the heads up. I checked online and C&J only have the Control Package for the Turbo motor (but a good price).
If I cant source the NA system I've probably go with the Turbo.
Everything I see make me think the EcoTec will be too tall. Kyle Beck (65 Midget EcoTec) said he will have to rework his hood.
I don't mind cutting under the skin but I really don't want to mess with the MG's lines.

Also, hope its OK I jumped in, don't want to be the new guy who steals the topic.



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