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Simon Austin Avatar
Not MG-related but an interesting conversion:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-volkswagen-thing-22/



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pete5711 Pete H
San Antonio, TX, USA   USA
1964 MG MGB "Matilda"
1967 MG MGB
Many years ago I put one in a Vega GT. It’s an aluminum block.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-21 05:58 PM by pete5711.

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OldBloke Gold Member Jim Legg
Napa, CA, USA   USA
1970 Rover 3500
1970 Rover P6 "Napa NADA II"
1971 MG MGB GT
1972 MG MGB V6 Conversion    & more
Probably about the same weight as my Rover V8 saloon....



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NSFW Rob S.
Pembroke, MA, USA   USA
In a Karman Ghia ?


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bills Bill Spohn
W. Vancouver, , BC, Canada   CAN
Not a Thing I like about that, Simon! devil smiley

Add weight to the rear, raise the centre of gravity and prepare to challenge your driving abilities in the wet or otherwise slick roads. Sounds like a fun ride - would love to see it on slalom course....



Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (350 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC

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Jim Blackwood * BlownMGB-V8
Gunpowder Rd, Florence, KY, USA   USA
A better idea would be to put it in an Opel GT. Buick engine in a Buick sports car.

Jim

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
I seriously considered doing a Buick/Rover V8 swap into one. I have loved those things since they came out. Worked with a guy that had one back in '72. Problem is that when you get right down to it, the MGB/GT is a much. much better car. The Opel GT is a POS on a Kadett.

I am sure it has been done, but by time you hack it up & add a cage for strength. Well, most would be going for more than a 215.

Calling the Opel Gt a Buick is a stretch, though, Jim. It is an import that was owned by GM. GM stuck Buick with selling them at their dealerships.

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
The GM 3.4 V6 is a more modest swap. Still a lot of work. Love the Baby Vette, though.

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
Okay, been done.


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Jim Blackwood * BlownMGB-V8
Gunpowder Rd, Florence, KY, USA   USA
Well it is a Buick Carl, it came with a Buick badge on it. They owned it, sold it through their dealerships and did the service work. How much more Buick do you want? It was the only sports car Buick had. It just needs a Buick heart.

Admittedly it wasn't as good as the MGB, though the 215 could only improve that situation, and heck it didn't even have a trunk. But it sure did look good, and how could you top those crazy headlight buckets? As a bonus you could scare the crap out of pedestrians with them! (especially the pretty ones)

I don't think there's all that much work in doing the swap.

Jim

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V8MGBV8 Carl Floyd
Kingsport, TN, USA   USA
Built in Germany by Opel. Owned by GM. Sold at Buick dealerships. Opel on the front. Opel on the rear. Opel GT on each fender. I have never, ever seen a Buick badge on one.

The GM V6 takes some doing. The V8 takes more.

As much as I love the little car, I am not sure it is really a sports car. It is basically an Opel Kadett with a new skin. My Uncle bought one of those new in '68 or '69. It wasn't much.



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40indianss don foote
2walla wa, USA   USA
Never thought of a 215 in the Opel gt but I like it. Baby corvette is what it reminded me of also. Back then probably would have used small block Chevrolet or 289 ford. Weigh less than 2000 lbs wet?

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Jim Blackwood * BlownMGB-V8
Gunpowder Rd, Florence, KY, USA   USA
Um, I think the GM badge was under the middle of the rear window, just a little square badge that said GM, maybe there wasn't a Buick badge anywhere on it, I really couldn't say.

It's amazing how many engines have been swapped into those, guess the original wasn't too good. Sounds like there's some sheet metal work but not anything we haven't regularly seen on MGB conversions.

Oh, also there were apparently body parts or body assembly in France. Italian design. Very multi-national car. What, no British influence?

So the suspension is crap then? I'm not convinced. Double A arms with ball joints seems pretty common. The transverse leaf was unconventional but Corvette used it successfully at the rear. Three link rear with coil springs and a track rod, I dunno. I'm not seeing a problem here. Lots of aftermarket bushings and such.

Wouldn't it be great if we could have all the cars we like? I'm not about to give up my MG though.

Jim

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bills Bill Spohn
W. Vancouver, , BC, Canada   CAN
I raced in the same class as the Opels and can attest to the fact that my MGA and the Alfas handled rings around them. Not saying that they couldn't be improved - anything can. Just that they were born with a lower level of handling than many/most other contemporary sports cars.

They sold on looks and the quirky headlights. Everyone thought they were mini Corvettes - maybe that's why the power available was even more disappointing - they do seem to have attracted a lot of transplants over the years.

AFAIK they were never badged as Buicks nor did they have any relationship with any Buick components - GM just chose those dealerships to sell the cars. If Jim had been right and they had chosen to sell them as Buicks, they might have moved more of them, but other than the styling appeal Opel wase a pretty unknown quantity for North American buyers.



Bill Spohn www.rhodo.citymax.com/carstuff.html
Current: 1958 MGA Twincam (race car (170 bhp)),1962 MGA Deluxe Coupe (98 bhp)
1957 Jamaican MGA (200 bhp)1965 1971 Jensen Interceptor (350 bhp)
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP Coupe (350 bhp)
2007 BMW Z4M coupe (340 bhp)
Recent: 1969 MGC roadster (175 bhp),Jensen CV8 (375 bhp),
1969 Lamborghini Islero S (350 bhp), 1988 Fiero GT turbo (300 bhp)
North Vancouver BC

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Jim Blackwood * BlownMGB-V8
Gunpowder Rd, Florence, KY, USA   USA
Yes but... since Buick did sell and service them didn't that make them Buicks? Or are the mostly Mexican cars we see today also not deserving of a domestic name plate? How about the Mercury Merkur? That was a German car too, so is it not a Mercury? Who draws the line?

Not that it matters, I just though it was cool to put a Buick 215 in one.

Jim

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