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Alan V Avatar
Alan V Alan Vinegar
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1969 MG MGC GT "Green Hornet"
I have noticed a leak from my rear axle pinion flange. This is a 3.3 axle which was new to me that I had refurbished and replaced the crush sleeve and seal. I did not take careful note of the rear flange surface and expect to see some pitting or a groove. Before I disrupt the pinion nut and all the associated hassles with maintaining preload I wanted to purchase a pinion seal and speedi sleeve. It appears that there is a sleeve available from Moss for the older banjo style axle but nothing for the MGC or later MGB. I assume the 69 and newer MGB and MGC are the same. I came across an e-bay kit skf-480151. The diameter this sleeve is spec'd for is 1.5" which sounds small to me. Anyone got an axle apart and can put a micrometer on the pinion flange?

Any help would be appreciated. confused smiley

Alan V

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kirks-auto Platinum Member Robert Kirk
Davenport, Iowa, USA   USA
Alan
You can by pass the tertiary market and deal direct with a bearing supplier. I don't know what you have in Canada but if you know the ID, OD and length needed they can order it in for you. That part of the tube axle (not the earlier banjo axle as used on early B and MGA) is identical B to C. You just "might" get by with crocus cloth polishing IF you see the culprit and damage to the seal causing the leak. Speedi sleeves are owned now by SKF bearing considered to be one of the finest makers in the world.

A discussion here where fellow Canadian, professional truck driver, and MGC owner Andy Hardy expresses a negative opinion.
http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?1,2150906
some measures
http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?1,2786903
Retail is about $50



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kirks-auto Platinum Member Robert Kirk
Davenport, Iowa, USA   USA
Not stocked but what I can get. About $40 and shipping

Redi-Sleeves are pressed onto the shaft using a removable flange. An installation tool is provided with each sleeve.
Flanged Outside Diameter (Inch) 1.781
Flanged Outside Diameter (MM) 45.240
Installation Depth (Inch) 1.000
Installation Depth (MM) 25.400
Material Stainless Steel
Outer Diameter (Inch) 1.781
Overall Width (Inch) 0.688
Overall Width (MM) 17.480
Part Type Redi-Sleeves
Shaft Size Max (Inch) 1.503
Shaft Size Maximum (Inch) 1.503
Shaft Size Maximum (MM) 38.180
Shaft Size Min (Inch) 1.497
Shaft Size Minimum (Inch) 1.497
Shaft Size Minimum (MM) 38.020
Width (inch) 0.563
Width On Shaft (Inch) 0.563
Width on Shaft (MM) 14.300



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Swamperca Swamper CA
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1968 MG MGC GT "California Chrome"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "C-Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"    & more
Alan:
I don't recall for sure but don't think the B and C are the same, seems that the C looked bigger. I'd just replace the seal first to see if that takes care of it. My 69 leaked and I replaced the seal and it's been good for a couple of years now. They don't leak much anyway.



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Alan V Alan Vinegar
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1969 MG MGC GT "Green Hornet"
thanks for your input John. I had just replaced the seal 10,000 miles ago so I think I have a scored or pitted flange so either I can polish it out or find a speedi sleeve. There is the option of sending out to a machine shop to add metal and restore the surface. I was just trying to have a speedi sleeve on hand so I could do a quick disassembly repair and back on the road. I have something coming from e-bay that says it fits the C pinion flange as well as a new seal. Hopefully it all fits.

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Swamperca Swamper CA
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1968 MG MGC GT "California Chrome"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "C-Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"    & more
I had a rear axle seal fail within 3,000 miles.



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Alan V Alan Vinegar
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1969 MG MGC GT "Green Hornet"
I also had an axle seal fail not long ago but that was easier work than the pinion seal. No preload to worry about. Of course I will mark the position of the pinion nut and get it back to the same position so as not to overtighten and distort the crush sleeve. Been there done that.

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Swamperca Swamper CA
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1968 MG MGC GT "California Chrome"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "C-Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"    & more
I replaced one on the 69 not very long ago. Easier than a wheel seal.



John Rogers
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Alan V Alan Vinegar
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1969 MG MGC GT "Green Hornet"
good to know, when I rebuilt my rear axle it was out of the car on my basement floor and was a cinch. We will see how it goes lying on my back with a 2 foot extension bar. Maybe I will have to come out to California and use your lift!!!cool smiley

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Swamperca Swamper CA
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1968 MG MGC GT "California Chrome"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "C-Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"    & more
No lift out here. Been working on jack stands and floor for every restoration.



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kirks-auto Platinum Member Robert Kirk
Davenport, Iowa, USA   USA
The last time I finally got down on the floor it took two weeks to get up. Probably amusing to a seocnd party... like watching a beached whale with arms and legs flailing about. eye popping smiley

I now leave a door open to grab hold of something for the "lift" when a lift isn't present. grinning smiley



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Alan V Avatar
Alan V Alan Vinegar
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada   CAN
1969 MG MGC GT "Green Hornet"
Funny thing Robert, is I know exactly the beached whale feeling and the looking for a convenient hand hold for the lift!!!!!angry smiley

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kirks-auto Platinum Member Robert Kirk
Davenport, Iowa, USA   USA
With age and girth comes wisdom.
As a snot nosed teenager the idea of pre thinking such a possibility of leaving a door open would never have come to my mind. devil smiley



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Robert Kirk

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Swamperca Avatar
Swamperca Swamper CA
-, Nor Cal, USA   USA
1968 MG MGC GT "California Chrome"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "C-Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"    & more
Yes that's why many projects have been on the must do list for over two years. I have recently re-evaluated things and my time to fit things into the back nine of my life.



John Rogers
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ron neal Avatar
Coastal, South Carolina, USA   USA
Robert
I used to be young and stupid but now think I am just old and still stupid.grinning smiley
I have a MGA project sitting the garage that is 70% completed and has been 70%completed for 2 years. I dont make the time nor have the desire to do two cars at once anymore.
My MGC engine rebuild is now in its 9th month and still not sure when it will be done but hopefully soon. Today my machinist and I have crossed one big hurdle which makes jumping the next 3 or 4 easier.
Ron

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