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Float bowl spacer

Posted by tdskip 
Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Hi guys - the HS6 carbs had a rubber (?) spacer on them that I've not seen on other HS6 before. They were dry and crumbly, and generally broken-up so I discarded them but now I'm wondering if they need to be replaced.

There was an extra spacer where part #10 goes;


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Dave DuBois
Bremerton, WA, USA   usa

"...so I discarded them but now I'm wondering if they need to be replaced."

Yes, they perform two functions: 1) they isolate the float bowl from vibration and 2) they set the float bowl at the correct angle (level).
Cheers,



Dave DuBois
1953 MGTD
1966 MGB
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Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Well since there we perished new ones will need to be sourced. Paging Robert!
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Swamper CA
-, Nor Cal, USA   usa
1968 MG MGC GT
1968 MG MGC GT "Cruiser"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "Cee Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"   → more

Jimmy Hilton replaced mine during the rebuild.
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Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

OK - Jimmy Hilton is a new name to me. What is the scoop Swamper?
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Swamper CA
-, Nor Cal, USA   usa
1968 MG MGC GT
1968 MG MGC GT "Cruiser"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "Cee Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"   → more

Jimmy Hilton is a guy in Texas that rebuilds SU carbs on the side and does excellent work. They come back turnkey with little adjustment needed and are better than new at reasonable price. I currently have one of my Bee's carbs being rebuilt by him. He did an excellent job on my Cee's carbs and I highly recommend getting yours done by him. It makes all the difference getting the dizzy (Jeff) and the carbs (Jimmy) in getting these engines running without a bunch of guess work.
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Mark Saylor
Pennsylvania, USA   usa
1969 MG MGC "Pride and Joy"

Hilton is the like the Jeff Schlemmer of SUs.

Or is it the other way around?

Have heard nothing but kudos for Jimmy's rebuilding services.
Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Hi guys - turns out that Moss carries the spacers.

Robert Edwards has saved me from me (they really were shot) and took all the mystery and work out of this (thanks Rob!). They are Moss 372-670 and 372-680. References to Healeys.

Mark S - maybe something for the newsletter? (that I still need to send you money / paperwork on)
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Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Just did a test fit of the Volvo carbs that i rebuilt for Tom R's 122s and they won't work as temp units on the MGC because I forgot that the Volvo intake manifold is at an angle. The float bowls are offset on the 122s carbs to keep them level, and when mounting on an MGC they'd be at a weird angle. Oh well..

Now where did I put that spare HS6 main body?
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Mark M
Emerald Valley, OR, USA   usa
1960 Austin-Healey 3000
1968 MG MGC "Red Tail"
1968 MG MGC
1968 MG MGC GT "The Wreck"
1969 MG MGC GT "The Lump"

Tom:

If they are also HS6s you just use a different float spacer - OOPS! -

That reminds me that the Healey carbs are all 30 degree semi-downdraft types, so the Healey spacers will just make your MGC carbs into Volvo carbs. Better recheck those part numbers again.

C Ya,
Mark
gary herbold
orangevale, USA   usa

Tom

I have used the HS6 carbs. off a Volvo by changing the float chamber adaptor (spacer #10) from the one used on a Volvo to the ones used on the MGCs. The angel of the rubber adaptor was different on the Volvo carbs. I had which held them at a slant just like you experienced. Also these adaptors are handed so they only have the correct angle if installed on the front or back carb. they were made for. The originals I have seen were one blue and one red so they would not get mixed up. I just don't remember what color went to which carb.
Hope this is of some help.

Gary
Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Got the broken shaft out of the original carb body, so maybe I can scrounge up a replacement pivot bolt and get back on track here.
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Swamper CA
-, Nor Cal, USA   usa
1968 MG MGC GT
1968 MG MGC GT "Cruiser"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "Cee Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"   → more

Would it be the same one as in the HS4 b carbs????
Tom Deutsch
NYC, NY, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1969 MG MGC

Not sure - good idea though Swamper! I don't have a set of HS4's handy to check, but I'm staring at a pair of HS2s right now and they sure look the same.

I have a spare set of SU HS6 carbs so if none of the guys have one locally I'll cannibalize the spare set. Shhhh. Don't tell Tom R since it was going to go with the car once is comes to his senses and buys it...
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Jimmy Hilton
Carrollton, Texas, USA   usa
1966 MG MGB GT "Probably Parts"
1968 MG MGB "Minkey"
1969 MG MGC "C'ster"
1979 MG MGB "Heidi"
1980 MG MGB "Ellie"

There is one other issue to be aware of in the difference between the normal 20 or 30 degree float bowl mounting, and the horizontal mounting. In SU carbs that have horizontally mounted float bowls, the bowls are also different. All bowls that are for non horizontal mount will use an 1310 bowl. All that are horizontal will use a 2140 bowl. At first glance they look to be the same, but are not. The 2140 bowls sit lower in relation to the carb body. The jets and choke lever setup are also vastly different for a horizontal mount bowls to accomodate the shorter distance.



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Coastal, South Carolina, USA   usa
1962 MG MGA MkII
1968 MG MGC
1969 MG MGC
1969 MG MGC GT
1974 MG MGB GT

Jimmy

Glad you surfaced. Have not seen you on the forum for some time.

Ron
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Jimmy Hilton
Carrollton, Texas, USA   usa
1966 MG MGB GT "Probably Parts"
1968 MG MGB "Minkey"
1969 MG MGC "C'ster"
1979 MG MGB "Heidi"
1980 MG MGB "Ellie"

Thanks Ron! Life has just had me too busy.

John, the carbs for your 74.5 should be done tonight.



Jimmy Hilton Jimmy@BatteryPowered.com

SU Carb Restoration By Jimmy Hilton Specializing in SU carb restoration. Also this hobby is a love of mine, and I like to be of any help. Best contacted by phone at 214-621-2344
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Swamper CA
-, Nor Cal, USA   usa
1968 MG MGC GT
1968 MG MGC GT "Cruiser"
1969 MG MGB GT "Rat"
1969 MG MGC GT "Cee Rod"
1970 MG MGB GT "Widow"   → more

Thanx Jimmy for the update. Good to see you on the board again. Life has it's ups and downs, I've been dealing with some health issues the last few weeks.:thumbdown:
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