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TimC Tim Collins Midland, MI, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 09:58AM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 91

The good news. . . I started collecting my Social Security "entitlements" (I gagged while typing that) this year.

The bad news. . . I just paid my Summer property tax which was 68 cents more that a SS check.

Are they (government units) all in cahoots?

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JackMG Jack Lindler Greenville,SC, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 10:04AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 14,907

Nice you can afford to own "summer property". I have to pay the better part of a SS check for my "year round" real estate property. Kick in the cars and boats and that's about another SS check. Add my homeowners and auto insurance and that's close to another. Any wonder that I'm still working full time?

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 10:40AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

In reply to # 2139645 by JackMG Nice you can afford to own "summer property". I have to pay the better part of a SS check for my "year round" real estate property. Kick in the cars and boats and that's about another SS check. Add my homeowners and auto insurance and that's close to another. Any wonder that I'm still working full time?

...Hey JackMG...this is Michigan.....we pay property taxes TWICE a year....this ain't my ole Kentucky home...this is Michifrance.......

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 10:44AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

...btw...just how much do you get in SS??...it takes many SS checks up here to pay our taxes..and on assessed value homes of 80K....which is appx 160 thousand value, not to mention they always raise them, and in fact there is a vote today to raise the millage again...two millages...they never have enough... angry smiley

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TimC Tim Collins Midland, MI, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 11:46AM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 91

Jack,

As Wyatt points out, the Summer tax I mentioned is one of two I receive on my year around residence. No summer home, camper, boat, vacation condo, etc. here.

Wyatt didn't mention that Michigan has the highest car insurance rates in the Nation. I pay $480 / 6 months for two cars (Sprite & 1994 Eagle Talon) and that doesn't include ANY collision coverage. That's the minimum coverage I can purchase and be legal on the roads. However, if I get a scratch on me while driving the State will take care of me for ever.

Wyatt, slightly less State Equalized home Value up here in Drift Ice +, but this is Midland - home to Dow Chemical and Dow Corning so one would hope that they are paying their share to support the community.

I'm complaining some but the reality is that I'm greatly blessed and thankful for I all I have.

And, like Wyatt I'm off to vote on proposals to increase taxes.

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JackMG Jack Lindler Greenville,SC, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 01:21PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 14,907

Yeah, but you guys retired from your $65/hour auto assembly line jobs I kept hearing about from the union foes. (Although I never ran across anyone who admitted to making anything close to that.)

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 01:31PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

....yup 65 bucks an hour, then ya retire and they snuff ya out and throw ya in the Dee troit river and keep the checks commin to them, money fer nothin and the chicks fer free.... ....then name a freeway after ya.... smoking smiley

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JackMG Jack Lindler Greenville,SC, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 01:35PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 14,907

The Schlemerrizer must be with him - my distributor hasn't come yet, either...

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Simon Simon Clowes Salem , Oregon, USA 1979 MG MGB "Big Red"	Posted: August 07, 2012 03:21PM Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 7,579

heck I pay taxes all year around - income tax on what I earn (don't get me started on the useless of working overtime to make more money), sale taxes if I spend it in a town about from home (Washington state), property tax, etc etc.

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 03:29PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

...as I has learn't here massa, it be da price weez payz fa livin in da sivilized sowsiddy...zipitty do dahh...mah o mah wadda wunnerfa day... eye rolling smiley

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taskadog Phil Burke Tequesta/Orlando Florida, USA 1972 MG Midget	Posted: August 07, 2012 08:25PM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 1,381

In reply to # 2139905 by wyatt ...as I has learn't here massa, it be da price weez payz fa livin in da sivilized sowsiddy...zipitty do dahh...mah o mah wadda wunnerfa day... eye rolling smiley

X2 Shut up, smile and pay your taxs. Freedom isn't free ya know smiling smiley

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 08:45PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

In reply to # 2140124 by taskadog

In reply to # 2139905 by wyatt ...as I has learn't here massa, it be da price weez payz fa livin in da sivilized sowsiddy...zipitty do dahh...mah o mah wadda wunnerfa day... eye rolling smiley

X2 Shut up, smile and pay your taxs. Freedom isn't free ya know smiling smiley

...get yer law license chase ambukances and run fer judge in a few years....life is good....

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slywelder Steve Yandoli new york, USA	Posted: August 07, 2012 09:06PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 3,578

In reply to # 2139821 by wyatt ....yup 65 bucks an hour, then ya retire and they snuff ya out and throw ya in the Dee troit river and keep the checks commin to them, money fer nothin and the chicks fer free.... ....then name a freeway after ya.... smoking smiley

---------------------Yeah they make 65 a hour plus benefits then retire with a fat pension----keep the lies coming im sure someone will believe ya

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 07, 2012 09:14PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

In reply to # 2140161 by slywelder

---------------------Yeah they make 65 a hour plus benefits then retire with a fat pension----keep the lies coming im sure someone will believe ya

...fibs.......... squire....the word lies is so harsh.... smoking smiley

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slywelder Steve Yandoli new york, USA	Posted: August 08, 2012 05:23AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 3,578

Tell the truth and shame the devil

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 08, 2012 07:00AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

actually slywelder it is not a lie,it's all out there if you really care to know....I just see no need to argue with you or anybody else over it.

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walshja joe W ct, USA 1974 MG Midget 1994 BMW 325i Cabriolet 1995 Triumph MC T160	Posted: August 08, 2012 11:22AM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 3,584

Wyatt is right, it's out there. but they make $29 an hour

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-worker-salaries/

remember, labor costs is not the same thing as wages earned.

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walshja joe W ct, USA 1974 MG Midget 1994 BMW 325i Cabriolet 1995 Triumph MC T160	Posted: August 08, 2012 11:26AM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 3,584

seems the automakers in Germany pay their workers twice as much, and produce twice as many cars

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/

seems like the union bashers are barking up the wrong tree

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: August 08, 2012 11:37AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

In reply to # 2140515 by walshja Wyatt is right, it's out there. but they make $29 an hour

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/12/auto-worker-salaries/

remember, labor costs is not the same thing as wages earned.

joe..ole jackmg was talkin history and retirement,so thats what I quoted,the good ole dayz...if I am wrong somebody will correct me of that I am sure...http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2008/11/19/uaw-workers-earn-130000-a-year/

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auctionwatch Steve . Out There, Somewhere, Thailand	Posted: August 08, 2012 03:29PM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 7,053

In reply to # 2140535 by wyatt joe..ole jackmg was talkin history and retirement,so thats what I quoted,the good ole dayz...if I am wrong somebody will correct me of that I am sure...http://www.redstate.com/bluey/2008/11/19/uaw-workers-earn-130000-a-year/

If you're not keen on the Heritage Thuglation, and I don't blame you if you aren't, here's some middle ground: acceptance of the $70+/hour TOTAL figure (note that "$65/hour plus benefits" is grossly incorrect) plus analysis putting that figure honestly into context. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html

"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal." - Jesus

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