Hap.... this was my one and only post on this thread until you hijacked it and made it your personal crusade..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 03:43PM by Super Speed Demon.

and since when is a thread about a school shooting political?

I'm so confused

seems to me this thread took a turn for the worst here
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?47,1996299,1996462#msg-1996462


so when I respond to RJ, suddenly I'm the bad guy?

funny guy that Hap

Joe, I agree with that that comment 100%, I think thats the point, these topics always bring out the worse in folks whether, it's me, you or whoever. There's a good reason why these type of topics are not allowed in many businesses, because they get real ugly, real quick,and they don'r belong here. We came a long way here, since the ugly days of the OTP, and I surely hope we continue that progress. Joe, if you really read into some of past comment regarding politics, we actually agree on more than a few topic, but regardless of that, this is not the palce for this sort of thing and Skye has determined that with his forum rules.

Think about this Joe, remember some fo the folks on the OTP, they are not around anymore, when Skye shut down the OTP, they vanished, which really was a good thing since this is a MG car forum, there are other palces to debate politics. The fact remains, that the OTP developed a new sort of forum member, one who came here only for political debate, thats kinda sad if you think about.

I'll tell you another that gets my goat here, is non believers making fun of believers, Charles avator is a prime example of that. Now it might surprise you to find out, I ain't the good ole Southern Baptist you might think I am, far from it, I have not been in church for something other than a funeral or wedding in 25 years, and have no palns to be there anytime soon, and not real big fan of orginaized religion, but neverhteless everyone should be shown respect, if someone does not believe, or believes, that should be respected. I'm truely ahamed of what some of you non believer has said openly said on this forum about the Christian faith, you should be ashamed. I know it works both ways, the gay marriage thing, but then you guys did start that thread too. Oh and Joe, I might shock you on that topic too. Bottom line, this stuff has no good reason to be here, and that has already been decided by the webmaster, now it just needs to be enforced.

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Hap what about believers posting about Jesus Christ intervening in a football game? Does that get your goat? Or what about believers coming here and judging peoples sexual orientation or other lifestyles and condeming them? Like homosexuality is a mental issue, its a deviant lifestyle.. its a sin..


ashamed of comments on the Christian faith... are you also equally ashamed of comments leveled at the Muslim faith Hap?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 04:39PM by Super Speed Demon.

so Hap, you agree 100% with RJ saying I'm responsible for promoting the moral decay of America?



and I never make fun of christianity, I highlight the hypocrisy of those who flaunt their religion on a public forum, while at the same time promoting bigotry towards gays. If people actually lived like christ there wouldn't be a single problem in the world.

Walsh.. highlighting hypocrisy is to many an attack on their faith.. it in fact is not.. like you said the vitriol by tolerant, loving, accepting Christians towards gays...


When someone says that because a QB is openly religious the lord led that team to victory.. a comment comes about the lord being more concerned with a football game than with a dying child.. well that is perceived an as attack on faith..

in fact it is not...

Joe, sorry for any misunderstanding, I was saying I agree with your statement, that his comments did turn the thread on a downward spiral, thats what these sorts of threads do when started.

I'm not accusing you of picking on folks of the Christian faith, just some folks on this site, I can't recall any of your comments oin that topic, so I'll take your word for it. And yes the road travel both ways, some Christians, for sure cross the line as well. This is not about conservatives vs liberals, this is about place and time, and a MG car forum.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 04:58PM by Speedracer.

Hap, as you said previously, we probably agree more than we disagree.

I'm glad this is ending civilly, I enjoy reading your posts both on the Midget and OT side.

man up...

Agreed Joe, now if I can only get that apology from him for misinformation, we can all have a group hug and move on...


Hap, you really have made this a popular thread.

...put down the ice pick and come on over to my boat house project....and set a spell....

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don't be left on the dock!!!

I dunno Wyatt. I think your taste is all in your mouth.

This ones much better. Easier on the eyes too.

....she's very pretty and Lawrence Welk was right to have her on every other week....she even did well without the bubbles...no mean feat....bravy.....

Wow!!!!!! Just got home from work its like 930 pm,i see i missed alot. Seems to a simple guy like me that there is plenty of blame to go around for all sides. Yeah i plead guilty and then there was the time i posted how the bride and me went to Alantic City some years back. We saw Elton John In concert,the guy is really talented,put on a terrific show and i posted all about it. Do you all think i enjoyed reading the comments about him being a homo. I mean all i did was make a innocent post and i had to read this bigot crap. So lets not single anyone out when everbody pulls there crap. Thats all i got to say

LOL, so funny Charles, so you posted 1 time in actual car forum, on car forum, maybe I should send you the Dave Russell award So I guess this doesn't make you the trouble maker I thought you were. "Come to CT", not in this liftetime, and as far as "growing a pair", LOL, dude you have no idea, and that's probably best. Maybe that's one reason not to stop the nonsense, for the humor factor, and then one reason to stop this nonsense, is the clueless will never have a clue, and these things never end, that pretty much what happen on the old OTP forum, no one ever won a debate, no one ever changed anyone's mind, it was just senseless never ending ordeal, as it will be again, if allowed here. People always think if they gets the last word in, they are right, so at this point, Charles "Tebrew" Patrick, I yield the floor to you sir, enjoy, and enlighten us

AS far as a way to handle this, it's actually pretty easy, it can be done like it is over at the BCF, with moderators. Skye, Cy, doesn't pay his moderators, they are are just active people on the fourms who volunteered/are appointed, at first I though I didn't like the idea of a moderated forum, but after awhile I learned it was no different than any other place that I was expected to mind my manners, and it's kinda funny, once people "get it", they get along, behave themselves, and there's no need for the moderator to do anything most of the time, the trouble makers, either straighten up, or move on. I think on the BCF, in 10 years, I've seen maybe 3-4 passionate debates break out, couple of them ended up being self policed by the offenders, and a couple were shut down and removed, and none of this had anything to do with politics or religion, those topics will get you banned forever. Skye, you thought enough of this community to shut down OTP, because people can just not behave with these sorts of topics, and there is good reason why they are banned in most places, I think you'll find folks are more willing to wade into the water, when they no there are no sharks in it, so I wouldn't worry about losing members, you'll probably gain members.

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Hap your views about all this have im sure the best of intentions however i have some doubts it will ever happen the way you'd like. Folks over a keyboard got big mouths,they say s?it they would'nt have the balls to say to someones face. Me? most think im this easy going guy,true im no tough guy but if some said half the things i find offensive to me in person id Ripe them a new A hole. Folks need to mind there manners,i dont care to here anyones so called values and i dont offer mine. Im a nice guy and folks around her like to piss on your leg then complain when you come back at them. Joe and Chuck are young turks like Wyatt said but there good guys,yes maybe they go to far and even myself as much as im fond of em have argued with them but they stand up for guys like me when im subject to some ass?ole passing judgement on me,my values or my faamily. You cant fault a guy for that. Take it easy pal and remember when you hit the off button on your computer this mindless stufff goes away

Hap, like I said I read that forum daily... I post WHEN I CHOOSE TOO, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT... I posted there yesterday as a matter of fact.. If you dont like it, tough shit.. this isnt your website Hap, it is Skye Notts...

Quit your damn complaining, its growing old an making you look like a fool.


And as for starting threads here on OT I started 1 in 30 days... so piss off. NO ONE IS FORCNG ANYONE TO READ OR RESPOND TO ANY THREAD.. It is your CHOICE!!!!

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It seems that your rants flare up like hemorrhoids coming and going and annoying.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/01/2012 07:17AM by Super Speed Demon.

Bump... again.. this was my only posting in this thread until you hijacked it Hap...

is it political? Nope
is it trolling? Nope
is it divisive? Nope

was it meant to be a joke... yes...