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Jack Lindler
Greenville,SC, USA   usa
I know Hap. I first met him thru a mutual friend some years ago, he's been a member and president of our local British car club, and did a damned good job, I might add. Hap's about as conservative as I am liberal, neither of us being extreme either way, but I have a lot of respect for him. He accepts my opinions, I accept his. It's a shame that some folks both right and left on this forum can't do that. People who have to be right all the time too often end up going to congress and that's a cryin damn shame, because all they can do is talk about how wrong the other side is and bicker over everydamnthing a person can think of and get abso-damn-lutely nothing accomplished. A few years ago we had a couple of conservatives on the forum posting crap to start and arguement all the time and finally they got hooted off. It wasn't pretty coming from the right, it isn't pretty coming from the left. Like Hap, I wonder why Skye puts up with some of the bull crap on here when we're not supposed to make political posts. Charles, even your avatar is a mockery of an individual's religious expression. How many football field-goal kickers, how many basketball free-throwers have you seen doing the sign of the cross before they take their shot? How many receivers have you seen who touched their knee in a bow after a making a big run or reception across the goal line, and nobody, but nobody ever said a word about that. But let an outspoken religious guy take a knee and all of a sudden everybody has to start mocking him. Why do you feel the need to make fun of someone with different views from you? Some of you people are nothing but antagonists out to make fun of, bully, and ridicule people who are different from you. Why on God's green Earth can't you just accept them at face value like Hap and I accept each other. I'll never make a liberal-moderate out of him and he'll never make a conservative-moderate out of me. But neither of us cares. He's a good guy, I'm a good guy, we both like MGs and other things and that's all we need to be friends.

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Charles Patrick
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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit" Posted: July 26, 2009 10:20PM
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So submittng library material, and he telling us he will post it, and not and the site being down for week at a time, while he's gone or absent, all that ok with you all too.

I have little to no respect for how Skye runs this forum, that why I give him nothing, oh trust me I tried. If you leanred something here, got linked to something you needed here, had one of the forum member to help you thru a problem here, I doubt Skye had much to do with it. I hope when they put me in hole in the ground someday, I known for helping people that love these cars, and not for starting a forum and then abandoning it, when something else came up.

Lets face it, Skye is just some guy who has a forum and a MG, not some MG guy who has a MG forum.



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Charles Patrick
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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit" Posted: July 27, 2009 08:07AM
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ragtoprestorer Wrote:
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Rather than start a new forum, why not convince the website master/owner to make the changes and additons that people want to see. The cost and time to run and maintain one of these must be very consuming. I know people have asked for these changes, maybe a conversation and help is what is needed.


IMHO I think we have a winner, in the post Jeff made.

I mean look guys at what is happening here, we have this great MG forum that moves at a incredible clip, has covered about every self help topic you can think about here, a forum so popular it has attractred the hobby's professionals, shop owners, racers, LBC business owners, some of them I'm sure would love to advertise here, to be hoinest with you, I know of no palce I rather advertise more, but can't because the adminstrator here is always away. Skye does not make the post that help you fix your car, post the pictures of things so to fuel your direction on your car and just see what part is you are missing, Skye hasn't fixed one car here, not even his own, in fact he pretty much null and void here. tell me how many of you have every PMed or email him before and did he even respond, and if he did it probably took weeks. maybe instead of giving Skye 50 bucks every year, you ask him to do his job to earn your membership first, thats not asking alot of someone, I pay you, do your freaking job!

Skye threatened to kick me out of here, because something I said over the political forum, somewhere I visit not that often here, but I do get sucked into a debate over ther, now over there he pounces into action when his little nerve gets hits but over here he pretty much ignores us. here's a idea, if you come to MG forum prmairly to debate poiltics, you need to go someone where else, and Skye need to get rid of the crap here, we don't need it here. So if you think Skye doesn't already moderate you are mistaken, he does, just over on a forum side that doesn't even need to be here.

I not going to say what I said over there (political forum) to awaken Skye from his slumber was edgey, it was it was to prove a point, that we in the country are afraid to even say terms or bring up certain topics, the mere mention of a given word form a certain color of lips is taboo. What I said was not racist, it was meant to bring awareness to stuff people in this country ignore, Am I pissed at thge headless rider web aminstrator for now bouncing int action, yeah I'm pissed abit about it, where the hell was he when we really need him on this forum. Sorry I have little respect for this guy, doubt much will happen to change that.

Skye if you want to kick me off here, do it or shut up about it.



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Charles Patrick
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In reply to # 1998425 by JackMG I know Hap. I first met him thru a mutual friend some years ago, he's been a member and president of our local British car club, and did a damned good job, I might add. Hap's about as conservative as I am liberal, neither of us being extreme either way, but I have a lot of respect for him. He accepts my opinions, I accept his. It's a shame that some folks both right and left on this forum can't do that. People who have to be right all the time too often end up going to congress and that's a cryin damn shame, because all they can do is talk about how wrong the other side is and bicker over everydamnthing a person can think of and get abso-damn-lutely nothing accomplished. A few years ago we had a couple of conservatives on the forum posting crap to start and arguement all the time and finally they got hooted off. It wasn't pretty coming from the right, it isn't pretty coming from the left. Like Hap, I wonder why Skye puts up with some of the bull crap on here when we're not supposed to make political posts. Charles, even your avatar is a mockery of an individual's religious expression. How many football field-goal kickers, how many basketball free-throwers have you seen doing the sign of the cross before they take their shot? How many receivers have you seen who touched their knee in a bow after a making a big run or reception across the goal line, and nobody, but nobody ever said a word about that. But let an outspoken religious guy take a knee and all of a sudden everybody has to start mocking him. Why do you feel the need to make fun of someone with different views from you? Some of you people are nothing but antagonists out to make fun of, bully, and ridicule people who are different from you. Why on God's green Earth can't you just accept them at face value like Hap and I accept each other. I'll never make a liberal-moderate out of him and he'll never make a conservative-moderate out of me. But neither of us cares. He's a good guy, I'm a good guy, we both like MGs and other things and that's all we need to be friends.

My avatar is thanking the beer God... Lord Jesus made the hops, the water, the barley and the malt.. its not offensive.
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Charles Patrick
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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit" Posted: July 27, 2009 03:45PM
Registered: 5 years ago
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Skye is a guy who had a MGB, heck maybe still has one, got lucky as hell because after alittle initial work to get this forum going, it took off, ittook off because of th people that post here, and the help and advice they as a group offered up to their fellow. Count the gold stars at $48 a year,and the silver one at what 25 a year, I had epopel tell me they are like 500 paying members here, you do they math, not a bad gig, for something you now hardly ever work anymore, tell me not one of you wouldn't like that action. He's slacer of a site adminstrator, other here have offered to buy this site form him, he ain't selling this hoiney hole, you can bet on that but could care less if it's made better either. Can some else do a better job, god I sure hope so.

Basil, since you want to play mindreader, yes this started over something I said on the off topic side, but there's alot more to it than that, as said here before, why do we need a political forum on a MGB forum, nuke that crap and be done with it, but no Skye won't do that because he has developed a new customer base from the political forum, I mean you look up and all of the sudden you have 100 paying members who almost only post on the political side, and you'd be hurting your incme if you cut it out, but if you going to let that shit exist, then you need to get the heck out of the way, and let people speak thier mind and not a a girly man, I'm for nuking that crap, but thats me, it never belonged on a car fourm, even the SCCA prod site has kept politics out of the mix.

So in closing I will not ever apologize to Skye, for anyhting I've said here, I'm not mad at him either, but we're not friends, and he is no friend to the hobby either, so maybe it's time to take this show on the road, we can do better for damn sure.





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Skye Nott
Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Some background for you all. I recently sent "Hap Waldrop" a private message informing him if he used the "n" word again in the OT Politics forum, he would be banned permanently from the forum.

So Hap, if you want to go start your own forum, feel free. Your bile is not welcome here.


Skye




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Charles Patrick
Here, SW CT, USA   usa
Perhaps it is time for you Hap to make your own forum?? Seems as though you have been whining the same song for several years...

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Charles Patrick
Here, SW CT, USA   usa
In reply to # 1998404 by Speedracer
In reply to # 1998230 by walshja where did you go Hap? you start a pissing match, then disappear?

You ever consider starting your own forum? You seem to have many ideas on who should and shouldn't be here. You could also charge to be a member.

You're a business man, make it happen.


What Joe I am supposed to stay here and baby sit you al day eye rolling smiley I have things to do believe it or not, you know a real life grinning smiley I don't have time to come on the site and totally watse time, I'll leave that to you, Charles and Howard smiling smiley Joe I think you may be a bit confused, I've precisely found the correct forum, I'm a long MG owner, and love these cars, so much so I decided to make this my profession, so coming here non stop and using a MG car forum for a way to promote my opinions and thoughts about politics and religion, and other sensitive topics supposely banned here is not what I come here for. Sounds like I'm exactly where I need to be, but you and the other two stooges seem to be a bit lost moon





Hap.. I started 1 thread in the past couple months about traffic cameras?

I didnt start a thread about Jesus Christ leading a QB to victory in the NFL.. did I comment on it.. yep...

when you are in a hole, the best thing to do is stop digging..
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Jack Lindler
Greenville,SC, USA   usa
In reply to # 1998433 by Super Speed Demon
In reply to # 1998425 by JackMG
My avatar is thanking the beer God... Lord Jesus made the hops, the water, the barley and the malt.. its not offensive.

And I say Bull!


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Charles Patrick
Here, SW CT, USA   usa
In reply to # 1998452 by JackMG
In reply to # 1998433 by Super Speed Demon
In reply to # 1998425 by JackMG
My avatar is thanking the beer God... Lord Jesus made the hops, the water, the barley and the malt.. its not offensive.

And I say Bull!

You are free to say whatever you like.. I could care less. It is MY FREEDOM of religious expression...



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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA   usa
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit"
Charles, time changes things and Skye does run a tighter ship these days, has made woderfdul cahnges and upgrades, and he now does get my money, more so than any other advertiser here, short of Moss. Skye and I have made our peace, nothing you quote here will change that. Bring it on Charles, I can handle anything you have to throw at me, on the web, or in person.

Dude, you can post all my past stuff I wrote you would like, knock yourself out, I don't claim to be perfect, but I claim to be trying harder. You not going to be able to back me into corner, because I'm trying to do the right thing here, and you guys are not.



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 03:13PM by Speedracer.
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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA   usa
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit"
In reply to # 1998452 by JackMG
In reply to # 1998433 by Super Speed Demon
In reply to # 1998425 by JackMG
My avatar is thanking the beer God... Lord Jesus made the hops, the water, the barley and the malt.. its not offensive.

And I say Bull!

You're 100% right Jack, Joe, Howard and Charles' whole reason for being here is to start trouble and the site would be better off without them, what's the ole saying, give the man enough rope and he'll hang himself, these cats are well on their way.



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Charles Patrick
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Our whole reason here is to start trouble? Bullshit Hap.. I started 1 thread in the past couple months.. I have made many friends on here.. so quit your bitching.. its getting old, take some personal responsibility and apologize for your blatant lies you posted this morning.. you're a BIG man...

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joe W
ct, USA   usa
Jack, I think you have it backwards.

Hap jumped on my thread here
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?47,1996299,1997339#msg-1997339

guns blazing

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?47,1996299,1997387#msg-1997387

I think Hap has the problem of accepting other opinions. Look at that post from 3 years ago, the guy has issues. Look at this thread, looks at other threads where he was making racist comments. Should we accept Hap's comments, smile and move on? Some people choose to call it out, much like you are calling us out for our perceived treatment of Hap.

I like to engage in debate, I like topics like this thread. RJ who has been sparring with us is a big guy, he can handle the pressure, why can't Hap simply not read OT if it upsets him so much?

If someone calls me the things Hap called me, or calls me a sinner like RJ does, or make claims like gays are ruining society and are responsible for the moral decay, well expect a debate from me. I won't call you names or act like a baby, but I will use your own words to debate. Like you get upset when Hap is called out, I get upset when people make hateful comments. If you are big enough to make the comments on a public forum, you should be big enough to handle the feedback.

Look at how I'm handling your feedback, I didn't call you a name, threaten to report you, or suggest you leave. Search my past posts, if I ever act like that, it is the exception, not the norm, unlike Hap.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 03:46PM by Super Speed Demon.

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joe W
ct, USA   usa
I'm sure Skye is relieved you now approve the way he runs his business.

You simply don't get it Hap. You are all too often on the receiving end of this crap, yet it's everyone's fault, but your own.

I think Skye said it best
In reply to a post by Skye Your bile is not welcome here.

But I don't want you to leave, you provide hours of entertainment.

And for a guy who is so adamant that OT shouldn't exist on an MG forum, explain this:
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/search.php?47,search=,author=speedracer,page=1,match_type=ALL,match_dates=30,match_forum=47,match_threads=0




In reply to # 1998456 by Speedracer Charles, time changes things and Skye does run a tighter ship these days, has made woderfdul cahnges and upgrades, and he now does get my money, more so than any other advertiser here, short of Moss. Skye and I have made our peace, nothing you quote here will change that. Bring it on Charles, I can handle anything you have to throw at me, on the web, or in person.

Dude, you can post all my past stuff I wrote you would like, knock yourself out, I don't claim to be perfect, but I claim to be trying harder. You not going to be able to back me into corner, because I'm trying to do the right thing here, and you guys are not.
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Hap Waldrop
Greenville, SC, USA   usa
1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit"
In reply to # 1998438 by Super Speed Demon Skye [ PM ]
Skye Nott
Vancouver, BC, Canada
1964 Vespa VNB 125
1966 MG MGB "The Bomber RIP"
1983 Suzuki MC GS750E "Kate"
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Registered: 14 years ago
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Admin


Some background for you all. I recently sent "Hap Waldrop" a private message informing him if he used the "n" word again in the OT Politics forum, he would be banned permanently from the forum.

So Hap, if you want to go start your own forum, feel free. Your bile is not welcome here.



Talk about out of context, I told a Chris Rock joke, bascily quoting him, he's my favorire comedian, FWIW I love Dave Chappel too.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2012 03:33PM by Speedracer.
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Charles Patrick
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all my friends are black

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joe W
ct, USA   usa
congrats on the award, I know your MG knowledge is rivaled by few.

doesn't change the fact that you seem to battle everyone, insulting so many people along the way.

can you provide examples supporting your accusations?

seems like whenever I ask someone who attacks me to do so, they run and hide

In reply to # 1998404 by Speedracer
In reply to # 1998230 by walshja where did you go Hap? you start a pissing match, then disappear?

You ever consider starting your own forum? You seem to have many ideas on who should and shouldn't be here. You could also charge to be a member.

You're a business man, make it happen.


What Joe I am supposed to stay here and baby sit you all day eye rolling smiley I have things to do believe it or not, you know a real life grinning smiley I don't have time to come on the site and totally waste time, I'll leave that to you, Charles and Howard smiling smiley Joe I think you may be a bit confused, I've precisely found the correct forum, I'm a long MG owner, and love these cars, so much so I decided to make this my profession, so coming here non stop and using a MG car forum for a way to promote my opinions and thoughts about politics and religion, and other sensitive topics supposely banned here is not what I come here for. Sounds like I'm exactly where I need to be, but you and the other two stooges seem to be a bit lost


Joe, while I'm sitting typing this to you, pretty much wasting time other than hopefully making this a better place for the members here, my FEDEX delivery person walked in the door, and I open the box she deleivered, it was the 2011 Dave Russell Award, In recognition of Outstanding Contributions to the British car Hobby, presented each year by the British Car Forums, a forum you would never be allowed to do there what you do here, anyway the award's name sake was Dave Russell,a wonderful man who love helping people in this hobby, and the award is given in his name each year. So in short, Joe you can't ruin my day brother, this means as much to me as any of my racing throphies, because I know I'm helping people to love the hobby I love so much. So I think I'm exactly where I should be, thje real question Joe is, are you?


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