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Moggy59 Paul Eggleston WV, USA	Posted: February 18, 2012 06:15PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 2,877

JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL---VERY HEARTWARMING.

After more than 40 years the Viet Nam Veterans of the United States of America raised
a phenomenal amount of money to memorialize another one of Hollywood's loyal(?)
American citizens who went out of her way to aid and abet the enemy and congratulate them
on their treatment of U.S. POW's. This memorial says it all.

I got teary eyed when I saw this.

Support our troops. Remember our Veterans.

1972 MGB Stock 1976 MGB Stock

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #2
wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: February 18, 2012 06:32PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

..thats funny...

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #3
Rod H. Amity, Oregon, USA 1964 MG MGB 1968 MG MGB GT	Posted: February 18, 2012 06:38PM Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 14,987

This should be an interesting thread...

To the pure, all things are pure...

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'68 MGBGT
'80 VW Vanagon Kombi
'09 Mazda 3 with 5 speed manual

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #4
losmorob Robert Park Los Molinos, CA, USA 1967 Austin-Healey Sprite "Penelope" 1970 MG MGB GT "Parts For Sale!" 1971 Wolseley 16/60 1972 MG MGB GT "The Money Pit" 2004 BMW MINI Cooper S	Posted: February 18, 2012 06:57PM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 6,940

I'm in just to watch.

Rob.

"Now the problem you have is that when you have the unerring certainty of machinery, it is a machine. When something has foibles, it won’t handle properly, that gives it a particularly human quality because it makes mistakes. And that’s how you can build a relationship with a car that other people won’t get."
Jeremy Clarkson

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #5
fordgt Gary Ford Gainesville, FL, USA	Posted: February 18, 2012 07:09PM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 3,206

Pass the popcorn please.

Gary
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1969 MGB (almost finished!!)
1973 Cougar XR7 Ragtop (next project in line)

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #6
kwinzee Ron Weber Hamilton, Ontario, Canada 1972 MG MGB GT "Struggles" 1976 MG MGB "Knute" 2007 Chevrolet Trailblazer "Gray Whale"	Posted: February 18, 2012 07:30PM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 5,548

Oooooooooo!!

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #7
George Herschell Webster NY, USA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: February 18, 2012 07:37PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 6,043

At least it still gets mentioned.
My "war" (sorry Police Action) has been forgottenalmost to
the point of what war? (for those who do not remember KOREA)
My answer to the Police Action statement was
"A lot of people were killed playing cops and robbers".

But that was a loooong time ago.
Sorry old wounds never seem to heal completely.

George Herschell

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #8
Tinman Dennis Glass Calif., USA	Posted: February 18, 2012 07:46PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 455

Appropriate, but she can still kiss my "ASS"!

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #9
racer76 Eric E. Adelaide, South Australia, Australia 1968 MG MGB "Blue"	Posted: February 18, 2012 08:35PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 7,117

There were lots of strong and varied opinions about the Vietnam War. I am not sure that there will ever be agreement on how it was conducted and who was or should have been involved.

Drafting people to fight in that war just made it all the more controversial. I was only young but I remember the partying in the streets when an election here brought in a party that ended conscription 1n 1972 (one of their first acts) so that many of my brothers and sisters friends could come out of hiding after "dodging the draft".

"The draft is white people sending black people to fight yellow people to protect the country they stole from red people". - James Rado

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #10
George Herschell Webster NY, USA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: February 18, 2012 08:53PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 6,043

That James Rado quote is so far from the truth that I can't believe
anyone would even think about it let alone believe it. I was drafted and
I'm not black. And in the outfit I was in, in Korea (1953/1954)I think
the ratio was more whites than blacks. So that comment is quite aways off.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble but being there I saw first hand the
ratio of black to white. That's not someones idea but my first hand observation.

George Herschell

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #11
racer76 Eric E. Adelaide, South Australia, Australia 1968 MG MGB "Blue"	Posted: February 18, 2012 10:20PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 7,117

In reply to # 1988452 by George Herschell That James Rado quote is so far from the truth that I can't believe
anyone would even think about it let alone believe it.

Well I posted that as just a relic from the era and I was more interested in its totality than just picking out the black element, but choose your stats and you might see why some where concerned (I am sure you can find stats that differ to these... such is the nature of the different sides of the argument).

The Vietnam War saw the highest proportion of blacks ever to serve in an American war. During the height of the U.S. involvement, 1965-69, blacks, who formed 11 percent of the American population, made up 12.6 percent of the soldiers in Vietnam. The majority of these were in the infantry, and although authorities differ on the figures, the percentage of black combat fatalities in that period was a staggering 14.9 percent, a proportion that subsequently declined.

from The Oxford Companion to American Military History. Copyright © 1999 by Oxford UP.

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #12
Carnuck Jim Blair Seattle WA, USA	Posted: February 19, 2012 12:24AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 20

As someone once said (and Samuel E Clemmons erroneously attributed to Disraeli )

There's lies, damn lies and then statistics. People can bend stats to fit their "facts" like the guy now claiming 97% of all untreatable cancer patients had root canal. Be that as it may, what's the causality?
In recent years the incidence of a certain rare brain tumour was reported to be 3000% higher in this area where the Seatac fifth runway is going. The govt pish poshed it by blending the stats with statewide numbers and said "See? It's just average" and that was that.

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #13
Skye Skye Nott Vancouver, BC, Canada 1964 Vespa VNB 125 1966 MG MGB "The Bomber RIP" 1983 Suzuki MC GS750E "Kate" 1986 Merkur XR4Ti "The Rally Car" 1990 Volkswagen Corrado G60	Posted: February 19, 2012 03:34PM Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,761 Admin

All I know is she sure looked good in Barbarella

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wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: February 19, 2012 04:01PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

...and that stupid workout video.....

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #15
Speedy1 John Gonzales-Lusk Los Lunas, NM, USA	Posted: February 19, 2012 04:12PM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 3,342

Skye X2

Wyatt X3

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #16
Naomi Naomi C Between Greensboro and Roanoke, USA 1964 MG MGB "Kirby" 1979 MG MGB "Bandit" 1980 MG MGB "Robbie" 1995 Mazda Miata Special Edition 2003 Jaguar S-Type	Posted: February 19, 2012 04:54PM Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 13,287

Jane Fonda -- won't find any fans of her in my family! As for the other comments ya might want to Google search "Project 100,000" which happened during the Vietnam period. I've heard the hubby and those who served with him talk about it many times and how they had to cover for those in the program. Still hear it mentioned ever now and then. Last time was at one of our car shows when hubby and another Veteran were talking about those days.

"1964 MGB" (Kirby) All original pull handle MGB, 3 main, with overdrive, but a daily driver with all the dents and dings to prove it -- Titled in 1965~~

"1980 MGB" (Robbie) Even though it's a RB it does have overdrive, a Weber Carb, and is my favorite MGB. We have logged thousands of happy miles together ~~

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2012 04:58PM by Naomi.

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #17
walshja joe W ct, USA 1974 MG Midget 1994 BMW 325i Cabriolet 1995 Triumph MC T160	Posted: February 19, 2012 05:23PM Registered: 5 years ago Posts: 3,473

Naomi

Jane Fonda is not a name mentioned in your family, because she spoke to the enemy?

Yet you celebrate the biggest traitor in American history
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?47,1954195,1954195#msg-1954195

Project 100,000
A 1995 review of book by McNamara in the Washington Monthly severely criticized the project, writing, "the program offered a one-way ticket to Vietnam, where these men fought and died in disproportionate numbers...the men of the "Moron Corps" provided the necessary cannon fodder to help evade the political horror of dropping student deferments or calling up the reserves, which were sanctuaries for the lily-white."

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #18
JohnD John Souders Jamestown,PA, USA 1976 MG Midget 1500 "Ms. Midgee"	Posted: February 19, 2012 05:25PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 125

In reply to # 1989054 by Naomi Jane Fonda -- won't find any fans of her in my family! As for the other comments ya might want to Google search "Project 100,000" which happened during the Vietnam period. I've heard the hubby and those who served with him talk about it many times and how they had to cover for those in the program. Still hear it mentioned ever now and then. Last time was at one of our car shows when hubby and another Veteran were talking about those days.

"Project 100,000

That is something I had forgotten about. I didn't know what they were talking about when I enlisted in 1970 till after it stopped. Not a good part of our history.

John

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #19
Naomi Naomi C Between Greensboro and Roanoke, USA 1964 MG MGB "Kirby" 1979 MG MGB "Bandit" 1980 MG MGB "Robbie" 1995 Mazda Miata Special Edition 2003 Jaguar S-Type	Posted: February 19, 2012 06:39PM Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 13,287

In reply to # 1989088 by walshja Naomi

Jane Fonda is not a name mentioned in your family, because she spoke to the enemy?

Yet you celebrate the biggest traitor in American history
http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?47,1954195,1954195#msg-1954195

Yep Joe she was a traitor indeed and her actions caused grievous harm to our troops. You'll be hard pressed to find any military family who is a fan of her or her actions! As for your mention of Virgina's Gentleman -- well our state does honor him and I'm sure those in authority who make that decision recognize his importance in Virginia and America's history. We're very proud of him and he sure was not a traitor to our state.

Now that I think about it would you consider Nathan Hale, who your state recognizes, a hero or traitor? He was disloyal to to the mother country. I suppose it's all in the eyes and hearts of our individual states and those who live there. By the way I think he was a hero just like General Lee smiling smiley

"1964 MGB" (Kirby) All original pull handle MGB, 3 main, with overdrive, but a daily driver with all the dents and dings to prove it -- Titled in 1965~~

"1980 MGB" (Robbie) Even though it's a RB it does have overdrive, a Weber Carb, and is my favorite MGB. We have logged thousands of happy miles together ~~

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2012 06:46PM by Naomi.

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Re: JANE FONDA MEMORIAL WALL #20
Swamperca Swamper CA Nor Cal, USA 1969 MG MGB GT "Rat" 1969 MG MGC GT "A 69 MGC" 1970 MG MGB GT "Widow" 1971 MG MGB "Ruby" 1974 MG MGB "Groovy B"	Posted: February 19, 2012 09:52PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 7,659

Jane Fonda And Joan Baez

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