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Jay Bee John Baldwin MANDURAH, Western Australia, Australia 1971 MG MGB 1992 Nissan Patrol SWB Diesel "The Four Wheel Drive" 2005 Hyundai Sonata	Posted: January 11, 2012 07:02AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 104

Has anyone any experience/knowledge of fitting a Mazda MX5 ( Miata) engine to a T Type?

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #2
malski Peter Malkin Bright, N.E.Victoria, Australia	Posted: January 11, 2012 02:21PM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 263

John
Wash your mouth out.

Peter Malkin
NE Victoria
Australia
MGBGTV8 (1977)
MGB Roadster (1967)
MGBGT (1973)
MGTC (1949)
MGB (under resto)(1967)

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #3
bobbygee bobby galvez Round Rock, Texas, USA 1952 MG TD ""Duckie Tee"" 1979 MG MGB "Duckie Too"	Posted: January 11, 2012 02:46PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 1,713

In reply to # 1952636 by malski John
Wash your mouth out.

With laundry detergent.

hot smiley

BobbyG

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #4
Sebring222 Jim Dougherty New Orleans, USA	Posted: January 12, 2012 08:58AM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 276

John- I would suggest you ask one of your fellow countrymen about this conversion, specifically you need to contact Michael Sherrell of South Perth. I believe he would have some interesting comments!

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #5
Paul J Paul Jennings Locust Grove, Oklahoma, USA 1955 MG TF 1500	Posted: January 12, 2012 10:06AM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 2,851

I would suggest, if you want to devalue this poor little British car with a Hmmm, I can't even say it, engine, why not keep it British and go with a MGB 1800 and a 5 speed? Cheaper and I'm sure the conversion has been done before and there might be documentation on the procedure. It'll run like a jack rabbit, oops, I should have said dingo! (Grin). PJ

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #6
vping Vincent W. Pina New York, USA 1952 MG TD "Gloria" 1958 MG Magnette "Tetanus" 1963 MG MGB 1965 MG MGB 1967 MG MGB GT "Serendipity" → more	Posted: January 15, 2012 08:55AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 1,497

Coincidentally after completing the Automatic in a TD, someone brought in a 1948 TC with a '67 B engine. I tried to talk him into putting in a rebuilt T-Series engine I have here at the shop but he wants to keep the 1800 in it. I took 300 pictures last night before I begin the tear down and as soon as the body is off, I will be documenting how the conversion was done.

I personally would have rebuilt it to original specs but it's not my car so I'll do what the guys wants. At lease I have documented the original chassis and body #'s and the color of the Car, interior and scuttle.

Cheers,
Vince

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #7
Paul J Paul Jennings Locust Grove, Oklahoma, USA 1955 MG TF 1500	Posted: January 16, 2012 05:33AM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 2,851

Cant wait to see the photos Vince! Not that I would do this, but it'll be interesting to see how this car was modified. PJ

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #8
Jay Bee John Baldwin MANDURAH, Western Australia, Australia 1971 MG MGB 1992 Nissan Patrol SWB Diesel "The Four Wheel Drive" 2005 Hyundai Sonata	Posted: January 16, 2012 08:00AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 104

I guess the answer is NO, You T Type fellows are certainly a fiesty lot.
For the record, I dont own a TC having sold it (myfirst set of wheels ) in 1957. Traded it in on an AH 100 BN1. There were six of us teenagers in town with TCs back then and we have kept in touch since those days. A couple still have TCs the rest a TR4, a MX5 and my wheels are a 71 Aussie build B. We are all in our seventies thinking we are seventeen, still enjoying the wind through our grey hair when we " go for a burn" out of town for lunch, not just a drive in the country but a full on foot to the floor should know better drag. My very good friend from those days ( who's son is married to my youngest daughter and therefor we share a grand son ) is one with a TC still, which he has supercharged. He is in the process of aquiring another TC and working on an XPAW to put in it. The oportunity to obtain a MX5 engine and gear box presented itself, so I asked the question on his behalf. He is now going to buy me a beer or two to take the taste of the soap away.
Thanks for the interest. By the way the MX5 wont fit without gas axing the fire wall. Relax it wont happen.

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #9
Paul J Paul Jennings Locust Grove, Oklahoma, USA 1955 MG TF 1500	Posted: January 16, 2012 08:30AM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 2,851

John, " We are all in our 70s still thinking were 17".

That's the way it's supposed to be John! These little cars not only bring back wonderful memories, but they keep us young at heart! PJ

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #10
malski Peter Malkin Bright, N.E.Victoria, Australia	Posted: January 16, 2012 02:11PM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 263

Great decision John.

You no doubt know Mike Sherrell given your geographical location.

I still regularly read his book even though I completed my TC restoration in 1992.

Peter Malkin
NE Victoria
Australia
MGBGTV8 (1977)
MGB Roadster (1967)
MGBGT (1973)
MGTC (1949)
MGB (under resto)(1967)

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #11
Jay Bee John Baldwin MANDURAH, Western Australia, Australia 1971 MG MGB 1992 Nissan Patrol SWB Diesel "The Four Wheel Drive" 2005 Hyundai Sonata	Posted: January 17, 2012 12:54AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 104

Peter in reply to your post
"Great decision John.

You no doubt know Mike Sherrell given your geographical location.

I still regularly read his book even though I completed my TC restoration in 1992."

Yes I know Mike he is a great source of knowledge and a very likable person. Because I dont own a TC I am not eligible to be a member of the TCOC of WA. I do tag along and take photos and enjoy their cmpany. Some times as navigator/observer in the supercharged TC of my fellow grandfather of Riley. At the tender age of 18 months Riley would point at those shiny things attached to the MG engine and say " SOOS " I am afraid my friend and I have brain washed him.
Keep enjoying being 70 going on 17 Paul, I agree these cars do keep us young at heart.

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #12
ander0308 Vince A Mandurah, Australia	Posted: March 09, 2012 05:48AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 3

Tony C??

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #13
pamex Pam C Melbourne, Australia	Posted: March 25, 2012 07:29PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 4

Howdy,

First time poster. Hi everyone, from Australia.

I was actually asked this question not too long back. I've recently inherited a TC I'm going to undertake a full rebuild on. I've also owned a NA6 MX5 for many years.

Even though I have a few NA6 MX5 engines lying around, I still highly doubt I'd put one in a TC. It will completely devalue the TC for starters. Plus I think there would be too much messing around to justify if it is worth it, over a complete rebuild of an XPAG.

Actually, when someone asked me this the first time, I believe he backed away a little with the look of scorn I gave him. :-D

I'm sure someone has done it, but probably more out of boredom and lack of access to parts depending where they are, I guess. NA6 engines are common and reliable so I can see where they might try it (I've got mine to 420,000 k and it is still healthy as, even with racing). Hey, go for it if you want. Just not sure it's a path I'd take.

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #14
bobbygee bobby galvez Round Rock, Texas, USA 1952 MG TD ""Duckie Tee"" 1979 MG MGB "Duckie Too"	Posted: March 25, 2012 07:50PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 1,713

Atta girl, Pam. Stay with the XPAG.

True, there are modern engines much more durable and reliable than these older clackety pushrod engines, but the whole point of an antique car is its very "antiqueness."

There are replicas out there to accommodate people who want the quaint look of the antique with more modern features.

Now if someone finds a rusting chassis out there with no engine, transmission or interior and wants to put some life back into what would otherwise be scrap metal, and is far removed from where these can be had, it's understandable.

BobbyG

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #15
pamex Pam C Melbourne, Australia	Posted: March 25, 2012 09:53PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 4

Definitely staying with the XPAG. smiling smiley

Cheers Bobby.

I'm busy doing all of my research on the particulars of T series. I'm coming from a background in Jap cars, so it's a bit of a learning curve. I'm determined to do as much research first though, so I can get it right.

I was discussing this over lunch actually, and it seems like it could be quite unfeasable to put a B6 into a TC. I'd like to look into it further (just for interest), but we have doubts the TC gearbox would match up for a start, so that could prove an issue/added expense. Doubts were also raised if the TC gearbox could handle the extra power, however I don't think that would be quite the issue, as a B6 isn't a massive power output anyway. It could possibly take quite a bit of fabrication to fit, so I doubt it would be worth it financially.

This looks to be a great forum, btw. Lots of info here. Congratulations to you all.

I'm looking forward to whiling away my work hours on here.

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #16
Jay Bee John Baldwin MANDURAH, Western Australia, Australia 1971 MG MGB 1992 Nissan Patrol SWB Diesel "The Four Wheel Drive" 2005 Hyundai Sonata	Posted: March 29, 2012 03:02AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 104

Just to keep you T Types revved up, hot smiley

latest is that the project is still on the drawing board. yes Vince I am referring to Tony C. By the way the purists may be interesed to know that "a little bird told me" that our esteemed Mike S once sat a twin cam Fiat engine in his TC's engine bay but thought better of it and didnt proceed. Probably about the same time a fellow named Costello was slotting a Buick V8 into an MGBGT. Nothing ventured, nothing gained!! smiling smiley

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Re: Alternative TC Engine #17
Pilkie Dave "Pilkie" Pilkington Bristol, United Kingdom 1954 MG TF 1500 ~ For Sale ! ~ 1970 Triumph TR6 1971 Rover P6	Posted: March 29, 2012 04:51PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 42

Hi all..

Well having recently bought a very solid 1954 TF1500 with no engine,I have no alternative but to fit a different engine to get it mobile,,unless a nice running 1500 XPEG turns up in the UK for a decent price!!

I will however be keeping it in the family and would like to fit a MG Midget 1500 eng/box.
About the same physical size,carbs snd manifold on the same side,will need a rad to fit as well.
Am keeping my eyes open locally to me for a scrapper/breaker that I can hear running and possibly drive a bit to test it out,then I can hopefully break/part out the rest of the car to get a few quid back.
I may look at the MGB option as well!!

Dave

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