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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #21
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: December 27, 2011 04:26PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

Fred:

Not quite, but almost...

A more current picture is attached. Needs a new RF fender, RR flare and repairs to the RR fender.

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #22
sign.designer1 David Bane Bland, Virginia, USA 1965 MG MGB	Posted: December 28, 2011 08:02AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 187

Rick, I'd say the foam is trashed after ten years of storage. Is that a 12 gal. cell? I'll be going with an 8 or 12, whichever I find first. If I buy new, I'll go with the 12. I'm also looking for a 17" seat if anyone has one for sale. I'm looking at the spec Miata seat and think it could be a good choice if I have to buy new, but I really want to sit in one before I buy. Do my eyes decive me or does your car have a coil-over rear suspension?

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #23
blackmgb Fred McConnell Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA 1992 Mazda Miata NA "MAC"	Posted: December 28, 2011 08:13AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,200

Coil over is legal and preferred in SCCA.

I'd defiitely go with a road racing seat. I'm not sure where Bland VA is winking smiley

, but in Northern VA there are two places I know where you can go into the show room and sit in the seats.

I have a 17" Kirkey Road Racing set now. Before I had a round track Kirkey seat that i bought off of ebay. It was a great seat, but in my yellow Miata, the same seat's rib protectors rubbed my biceps raw.

Make sure your cage builder accounts for a good seat brace, or look to get one from IO Port racing. Seat mounting should be done with good consideration.

This crash I had changed my perspective on safety equipment and seat mounting.

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #24
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 08:35AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

David:

Coil overs front and rear. That's why I asked about SCCA versus vintage. My own car has coil over fronts (but easily removable for a vintage-legal suspension) and leaf spring rears.

I agree with your comment about the foam, but I'll take a look.

I also agree with Fred. I've got a Kirkey Road Racing seat as well.

I/O Port Racing is having a year-end sale through 1/8/12 you may want to take advantage of. That's where I got mine.

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #25
fast-MG.com Dave Headley Cortez, 4 corners, Colorado, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 08:38AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 3,324

One of the nice things about a Kirky seat is they can be adjusted to address the things Fred mentioned. While not easy, you can bend the wings in and out and also add padding to move your "butt" up. Walmart sells some fairly dense padding in the form of a roll up camping bed/mat which is affordable and can be cut up to customize the seat to fit the driver. devil smiley

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #26
blackmgb Fred McConnell Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA 1992 Mazda Miata NA "MAC"	Posted: December 28, 2011 09:10AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,200

Here are the two seats I mention. The photo of the road racing seat is not that good, but you can easily do a google images search and it will probably pop right up.

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #27
sign.designer1 David Bane Bland, Virginia, USA 1965 MG MGB	Posted: December 28, 2011 09:49AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 187

Good looking car, Rick. I guess you're rebuilding to put back on the track. I take it that is the fuel cell for sale. Is it a 10 or 12 gal. cell? Also, do my eyes decieve me or is that a coil over suspension under the rear of the car?

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #28
sign.designer1 David Bane Bland, Virginia, USA 1965 MG MGB	Posted: December 28, 2011 09:52AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 187

Sorry, didn't turn to page 2 and thought my post didn't go through. That's what happens when i'm supposed to be working!

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #29
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 10:45AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

David:

I actually bought the car for the SC/CR gearbox! At the time I wasn't sure if I would be able to repair the one for my car.

Total acquisition cost was not significant. I figured I could get a lot of that back by selling off the parts I did not need (hence the fuel cell post a few months back, etc.), and might end up with a "free" gearbox. Now I'm feeling like it would be a shame to part it out though.

I'll measure the seat while I am at the storage garage. I have two others that I'll measure as well, but I think they are narrower than 17 inches.

Let me know if you want more pictures. There are gauges, Accusump, electronic ignition, Mallory distributor, intake and headers, etc. that might work on your build. Also has a Comptune head.

Or let me know if you want a package deal. winking smiley

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #30
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 10:48AM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

I also agree with Fred on the Kirkey seats. I had a Kirkey with the rib protectors in my LPHP Fiesta and even with the mods Dave suggests it still seemed to get in the way.

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #31
Speedracer Hap Waldrop Greenville, SC, USA 1967 MG MGB "The Biscuit"	Posted: December 28, 2011 01:16PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 20,606

I had a Kirkey 17" seat, but now it's a 19" seat grinning smiley

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #32
blackmgb Fred McConnell Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA 1992 Mazda Miata NA "MAC"	Posted: December 28, 2011 01:44PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,200

In reply to # 1939688 by Speedracer I had a Kirkey 17" seat, but now it's a 19" seat grinning smiley

LOL!

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #33
sign.designer1 David Bane Bland, Virginia, USA 1965 MG MGB	Posted: December 28, 2011 02:44PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 187

I live very close to where interstates 77 and 81 cross in southwest Virginia. Bland is actually between the two tunnels that interstate 77 runs through. I can make a trip somewhere to try out a seat if I need to, but Charlotte NC is probably closer. Rick, Raleigh wouldn't be too bad of a trip either if you've got something that will work. Take some pics if you don't mind and we'll see what we can work out. I'm planning on travelling to Carlyle PA in the spring for the swap meet and want to see what I can find there also.

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #34
dickmoritz Dick Moritz Philly 'burbs, PA, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 02:57PM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 7,412

David,

I have flea market spaces at both Spring and Fall Carlisle that I don't use much any more. If you're interested in either or both, either one-time or permanently, shoot me a PM and we can discuss.

Dick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #35
blackmgb Fred McConnell Hollidaysburg, Pennsylvania, USA 1992 Mazda Miata NA "MAC"	Posted: December 28, 2011 06:48PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 5,200

I doubt you'll find any racing stuff at Carlisle. You are starting to barely find any fleamarket stuff. Ebay Motors is a place where you should set up a saved search under MGB Race, MGB Racing, etc. It will give you daily updates of what/if anything is posted. Ebay is where I found my windscreen and 4.3 rear end for example among other items too.

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #36
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: December 28, 2011 10:48PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

Fred:

Nice wrap!

Can you PM me the approximate cost? Thought it might be an alternative to a more expensive paint job (i.e., go Maaco and then wrap the car).

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #37
racer76 Eric E. Adelaide, South Australia, Australia 1968 MG MGB "Blue"	Posted: December 29, 2011 01:04PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 7,255

In reply to # 1940150 by Rick Starkweather Can you PM me the approximate cost? Thought it might be an alternative to a more expensive paint job (i.e., go Maaco and then wrap the car).

Of course I didn't pay for mine, but my "wrap" cost as much as a decent paint job - but they did it in quite a heavy vinyl because the car is dark blue underneath and they had to stop it showing through the white (and they give a four year guarantee on the heavy stuff, so that was a bonus).

Since I wrecked the back corner by snagging a tyrewall I will now see what it is like to properly "patch" the design (I survived the rest of the season with a makeshift patch job that looked OK from trackside).

EDIT: A quick Google will find some ideas for you and American companies, but I found this place in England (I liked the cars on their website):

http://www.totally-dynamic.co.uk/

- and (if you can do the conversion) they say:

"A full colour vehicle wrap on an average size car, including design, production and installation, costs from only £1500 and when produced on high quality film will last for 3-5 years"

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #38
sign.designer1 David Bane Bland, Virginia, USA 1965 MG MGB	Posted: January 01, 2012 11:10AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 187

Rick, did you get my PM about the parts? Definitly interested. I may also be changing my mind about going to Carlisle, PA. I do however have a lot of parts for sale since I've decided to race and not put my car on the street. Selling these would be my main reason for attending Carlisle. Any suggestions other than e-bay? Or is that the best way to sell them off?

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #39
Rick Starkweather Raleigh, NC, USA	Posted: January 01, 2012 04:39PM Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 711

David:

Got your PM. Will get you some more information next weekend.

Let me know if you pursue the Carlisle option. I have a lot of Rolls-Royce parts from my Dad's cars (now sold) to sell. May have a RR expert in FL who is interested but have not heard back from him.

My Mom would like them gone from her basement...

Rick

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Re: New here and building a 1965 mgb racer #40
Bill Ball Exton Pa, USA 1925 Bentley Arnage 1946 Austin-Healey 100 1958 Austin-Healey 100 1960 Austin-Healey 3000 1977 MG MGB Racecar → more	Posted: January 02, 2012 07:18AM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 190

In reply to # 1943111 by Rick Starkweather David:

Got your PM. Will get you some more information next weekend.

Let me know if you pursue the Carlisle option. I have a lot of Rolls-Royce parts from my Dad's cars (now sold) to sell. May have a RR expert in FL who is interested but have not heard back from him.

My Mom would like them gone from her basement...

Rick

Hey Rick I will check into why your "Rolls parts guy in Florida" didnt get back to you. And I have 2 other names if he doesnt want it.

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