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MG Midget Windshield Replacement

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Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

Well... It all started when I had a new convertible top installed. I believe the shop used the sun visor swivel mounts as a base to clamp to in order to stretch the new top into place. In the process they broke the mounts. I was replacing the mounts when, as Murphy's Law requires, I ran a screw into the back of the windshield glass and voila', I now have a cracked windshield.

My question is this... In order to replace the windshield is it necessary to remove the entire windshield frame from the car? Can it be replaced leaving the side (vertical) supports in place (or perhaps just loosened) and sliding the windshield out/in the top?

Any help is, as always, greatly appreciated.

-Len
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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

You will need to remove the windscreen and its frame. When you do keep up with the shims between the posts and the car. Note, the screws aren't phillips they are pozi-drive.
Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

Thanks Jimmy.

I've read other posts that mention having to remove the dashboard as well. Is that also necessary?
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Ryan Miller
Kansas City, USA   usa

Don't feel too bad. My windshield suffered the same fate years ago. The windshield assembly comes off pretty easy. Two bolts at the base of the center tension rod, then open the door and you'll see two bolts behind each door. The whole frame lifts right out.
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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

Just what Ryan said, the dash stays in place.
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Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

Thanks guys!

My replacement windshield should arrive in the next few days. I'll take pictures and take notes to post as I go along. Wish me luck!
Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

OK... So the old windshield is out and the new windshield is back in the windscreen assembly. Everything is in place except the windshield to body seal. When I took apart the frame I had to remove the seal and after examining it I decided it needed to be replaced. So my question is how in the heck do I install the new seal? Is there a trick to getting this done?

Thanks!

-Len
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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

I bet you are having a hard time keeping the lip out, huh? Get a piece of cotten rope and place it behind the lip, with some help holding down on the frame (windscreen) until it makes good contact. Then pull gently on the rope and it will pull the lip out for you. Hope this helps, its how I do it. Just remember, "cotten rope".
Jack Morris
Chattanooga, TN, USA   usa

I wondered if you were going to replace the windshield-to-body seal. When I did this, I had a HORRIBLE time compressing the seal enough to get the bolts back in the frame legs. Best of luck!
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Trevor Jessie
Louisville KY, USA   usa

I think he is asking about just putting the seal into the groove in the frame.



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Jeff and Brittany Brackenridge
Choctaw, Choctaw, Oklahoma, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget Conversion
1976 MG Midget 1500 "Yellow One"
1977 MG Midget 1500 "Dunkirk"
1979 MG Midget 1500 "Parts Car"

It is almost definately a 2 person project to get the windshield lined up, the seal in place and not folded under the windshield frame, and the nuts and bolts in place. 1 person constantly applying pressure to keep the body to frame seal in place and one person running around fidddling with the seal and the nuts and bolts. Once you do it once, you will be a pro. Though it is not totally necessary, I also used a liberal amount of RTV black in the corners and around overlapping areas just to make sure that I did not need to go thru this exercise a second time. I also used it inside the windshield frame and glass to seal channel.
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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

In reply to # 2492192 by trevorwj I think he is asking about just putting the seal into the groove in the frame.

If this is what you were talking about, dish soap is your friend!
Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

Yep... That was what I was wondering about... And, yes, I did wind up using an ample amount of dish soap. In the photo the new seal is on the left and my old seal is on the right. I tried putting the old seal back in before the new one arrived and thought about just driving the car without a windshield... LOL! It's finally all back together now and ready to be put back on the car. I am going to try the cotton rope trick to pull the seal edge out as I go though since it looks like it can also be a pain. Fortunately I've had a buddy and my wife helping along the way which has made it easier.

Thanks for all of the advice!

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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

Yeah, rubber doesn't like cold weather or the sun. Looks like it was time for a new seal.
Eric Miller
Lynnwood, WA, USA   usa

My thought has always been that I don't know the in's and outs of the windshield bus so swallowed my pride and has the whole thing done by a good local glass shop...
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Trevor Jessie
Louisville KY, USA   usa

I lot of glass shops won't touch the Midget windscreen job. It is a fine DIY project if you have patience.



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Len Baker
Union, Kentucky, USA   usa
1975 MG Midget 1500 "Money Pit"

Yeah... That's why I have been doing it myself... The local shop wanted nothing to do with it.

My issue now is getting the windshield assembly on the car. I have it mounted to the body by the center bolts (pic 1 below). Not sure if this is where I should've started but it seemed to make sense. The center is bolted down but I can't seem to get the sides lined up to the position shown in pic 2 (prior to disassembly). Without putting some sort of giant strap around the entire car, how do I pull the ends of the assembly down enough to get the bolts and shims back in place?

Any suggestions?

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Jimmy Campbell
Bedford, Va, USA   usa

I'd loosen up the center mount then use some type of alinement tool to stick thru the mounting holes (one at a time) while you have someone riding down on the top of the frame, then use the alinement tool to get the holes in sight. Yes some have used straps, but my young son (60 lbs.) and my self were able to fit it the way I said. Just be calm and take your time, the main thing is to maintain..
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David Bassett
Nashville, Tennessee, USA   usa
1970 Triumph Spitfire MkIII "Tamara's Turd... SOLD!!!"
1974 MG Midget MkIII "Lizzy...SOLD!!"
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Did it by myself (??) grinning smiley....use a stubby phillips screwdriver or awl to locate and jam in one of the side holes inside the door. Get the second bolt/nut started. Go to the other side. Same process. FInger tighten everything down, then move to the flattest wrenches you can find. I found a use for one of those flat ratchet wrenches helped with this job.

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Jack Morris
Chattanooga, TN, USA   usa

Now you're starting the "fun" part! My helper and I finally had to resort to using racheting tie down straps to pull the windshield down far enough to bolt in the legs. We tried to use awls and everything else for alignment prior to starting a bolt but the last 1/8" was impossible for us.

We looped the tie down straps over the top of the windshield, and in front of the top door hinge, then around the bottom door hinge, then started ratcheting (both sides equally, little steps at a time). That was the only way we could get it down far enough to start the bolts.
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