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RustyR Avatar
RustyR Russell Smith
Corning, California, USA   USA
I ordered a case of Valvoline 20W-50 VR1 Racing Motor Oil - 1qt (Case of 6) from eBay yesterday at a cost of $42.10 which included shipping. This morning I received a message telling me my order was cancelled because there is some type of restriction shipping this to my state {California}. I think it's ridiculous but nothing surprises me these days. Any suggestions how I can get some of this oil without having to drive to another state?
Thanks.

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RJBrown Randy Brown
Queen Creek, Arizona, USA   USA
The People's Republik of Kalifornia sucks!
Bump

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bikermga Peter Tilbury
Surrey, BC, Canada   CAN
Stocked and sold by O'Reillys and Napa.

I bought it in ORs in Solvang in June during GT42, so it is sold in CA.

Peter.

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wyatt Silver Member Wyatt W
penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica   ATA
...yes, thru the vote and millions of others like wise...





In reply to # 3567552 by RustyR I ordered a case of Valvoline 20W-50 VR1 Racing Motor Oil - 1qt (Case of 6) from eBay yesterday at a cost of $42.10 which included shipping. This morning I received a message telling me my order was cancelled because there is some type of restriction shipping this to my state {California}. I think it's ridiculous but nothing surprises me these days. Any suggestions how I can get some of this oil without having to drive to another state?
Thanks.

Gary E Avatar
Gary E Silver Member Gary Edwards
Kernersville, ,N.C., USA   USA
If you look on the packaging for a pair of channel locks it says it can cause cancer in California. Not the other 49 states just CA..



Gary

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jonbok Jon Bok
Los Angeles, CA, USA   USA
AutoZone still sells it, and it is about that same price, maybe even slightly less. A few months ago they moved it over to the "motorcycle oil" section, so have a look over there next time you're in an AutoZone store.

RustyR Avatar
RustyR Russell Smith
Corning, California, USA   USA
We have O'Relliy's , NAPA, and Autozone .............all within about a 6 mile circle. Thanks guys!

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RustyR Russell Smith
Corning, California, USA   USA
Uh Oh...........called O'Reilly's, Autozone, and NAPA...................NOT available in California!!! Drat. The eBay seller said he will sell it to me IF I use UPS for shipping? We'll see.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-08-07 08:36 PM by RustyR.

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Billm Bill Masquelier
Santee, Ca, USA   USA
I just bought some at O'Reilleys last week
Move to the good part of Cali!
BillM

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copernicus Nick Kopernik
Redding, CT, USA   USA
Seems that in 2016 CA moved to eliminate the sale of what was deemed "obsolete" oil & lubes by the API & it was supported by the lube industry. I believe one VR1 oil meets the new reg, other types do not. Here' s an article from 3/2/16 by Kiara Candelaria for "The Lube Report":

"California this year began prohibiting the sale of engine oils and lubricants considered obsolete by American Petroleum Institute standards. The regulation outlaws sale of several specifications of oil previously permitted by the state, the newest being API SH.

The bill makes amendments to various sections in the California Business and Professions Code regarding the sale and labeling of lubricant products. The law now requires that engine oils and lubricants meet, at minimum, one active API classification, one active sequence of the European Automobile Manufacturers Association (ACEA) or one active original equipment manufacturer specification.

The current API classifications for gasoline engines are API SJ, SL, SM and SN. The law further states that the API, ACEA or OEM specification and the viscosity grade of the lubricant must be clearly labeled on the product.

The California Department of Food and Agriculture’s Division of Measurement Standards, which regulates weights and measures and oversees quality and labeling of lubricants, reported that it and the law’s author, California assembly member Sebastian Ridley-Thomas (D-Calif.), engaged with lubricant stakeholder groups on the impacts of the mandate and received no objections to the final bill.

A spokesman for the CDFA told Lube Report, “Outdated specifications will be amended or deleted.” He added that the department is currently communicating with lubricant producers, wholesalers and retailers about the products that can no longer be sold in the state.

Two representatives from industry groups gave Lube Report their opinion on the legislation, which went into effect Jan. 1.

Tom Glenn, president of the Petroleum Quality Institute of America,said he supports the legislation. He understands that oils under the API SA classification “continue to have a place in the marketplace as compressor oils, jack oils and some small engine oils,” but added that applications are limited.

“I think there are some applications for SA that are still legitimate, but [SB through SH] are obsolete, and they really have no place in the market now,” said Glenn.

Banning the sale of obsolete engine oils in the state represents some issues for lubricant manufacturers that provide specialty oils, said Jeffrey Leiter, legal counsel for the Independent Lubricant Manufacturers Association, of Leiter & Cramer PLLC. While the legislation specifies the performance standards for engine oils, Leiter noted that it does not detail what standards specialty lubricants must meet.

“For example, there are some ILMA member companies that produce specialty lubricants, like racing oils for high-performance cars on tracks and hot rods, where in many instances the oil marketer will overtreat the products with additives, so it doesn’t neatly fit within an API [or ACEA] specification,” Leiter explained.

According to Leiter, many ILMA members produce and market engine oils deemed obsolete because of consumer requests or because they need to have products that compete with those of other manufacturers. He added that antique car clubs, which prefer to use obsolete classifications on their engines, also expressed concern over this legislation.

But obsolete products, which contain less additives and/or lower quality base stocks, do not protect older engines as well as oils that meet newer specifications, said Glenn, even if it saves the owners some money.

“There might be a market for [obsolete motor oils], but that market doesn’t really understand that they are accelerating the demise of their vehicles by using these older- spec products,” Glenn explained.

Both Leiter and Glenn emphasized that current API classifications are backwards compatible with older engines and in fact may protect them better than the specifications that were developed for them.

They also agreed that obsolete engine oils should have their specs clearly labeled, with Glenn adding that they should not be sold alongside products with current specs, since they can confuse or even deceive consumers. “If it’s obsolete, it shouldn’t be on the shelves,” he said."

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RJBrown Randy Brown
Queen Creek, Arizona, USA   USA
Once again the the big oil companies lobbies and the state bureaucrats are telling us what is best for us.
Helps big oil companies by reducing what they need to stock and by driving smaller companies out of the market.
This in a nutshell is what is wrong with America in general and Kalifornia in particular. The nanny state is coming to save us from ourselves. We need their help.
Remember! They know what's is best for you!
Kalifornia with probably the best geography/weather in the nation leads every state except New York in people moving away.
I wonder why?


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wyatt Avatar
wyatt Silver Member Wyatt W
penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica   ATA
RJ....thumbs up...except for your geography comment...sayz the man who lives in the worlds largest fresh water basin area on the planet....smoking smiley

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mainelymgb Rich S
MA, New England, USA   USA
What's really funny (not) about all this is that it will be easier to buy pot than motor oil for old cars. Imagine that we will have a black market for motor oil and retail storefronts for pot.

Has anyone given any thought to the carbon footprint from smoking pot? Boy, is our society going crazy! Sorry for saying boy, if I offended anyone.

Steve S Avatar
On The Road, Lost in So Cal, USA   USA
Guess they're putting something in the water in that barren wasteland to the east. moon

In reply to # 3568285 by RJBrown Kalifornia with probably the best geography/weather in the nation leads every state except New York in people moving away. I wonder why?
Because it's expensive. Google is your friend. Next question...

In reply to # 3568099 by RJBrown The People's Republik of Kalifornia sucks!
What sucks is when people accept internet rumor as truth. It has nothing to do with California, it's product labeling. VR-1 is not illegal in California, but shipping petroleum products with labels into a region that it's labeling doesn't conform with, is. If someone won't ship VR-1 to California then they either have old stock, or don't realize the labels have been updated to conform with the latest laws.

I bought two cases or VR-1 yesterday at Napa Auto Parts.

Steve S Avatar
On The Road, Lost in So Cal, USA   USA
In reply to # 3568311 by mainelymgb What's really funny (not) about all this is that it will be easier to buy pot than motor oil for old cars.

You shouldn't be using old formulation oils for your car anyway. Modern oils are far superior. The only thing I'll miss about that old stuff is the smell of burning Castrol R, in all its cancer causing deliciousness. smiling smiley

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