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Interesting MGA 1600 MK2, Thoughts needed

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David K
Los Angeles, CA, USA   usa
today i inspected a 1600 MK2. the car was all original, even the original spare and spare cover. never been in an accident no rust issues, very original and very clean. tail lights were correct and correct emblems.


however, the data plate came up as a 59 twin cam roadster per the British Motor heritage certificate. any thoughts on this?

the data plate was registered as far back as 1980.


could the heritage people be wrong? maybe more of an investigation is needed.

maybe the prior owner swapped out the data plate for registration purposes.

the vin is YD3/2241

but like i said it was as clean as a 1600 MK2 could be.

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Larry Wheeler
Hillsboro, OR, USA   usa
1957 MG MGA "Rosie 2"
AFAIK, all twin cam VINs started with a 'Y'. The Heritage certificate most definitely should have come back as a twin cam. Looks like a VIN swap to me.

Can you find the VIN stamped on the right-hand cross member? If so, check to see if it matches the VIN plate.
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Gone, /, Kiribati   kir
Repost, sorry.



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Gone, /, Kiribati   kir
Probably a VIN tag swapped onto a good body shell, but maybe you lucked out and found a twin cam car with an engine swap.

Granted, a twin cam mill for it is a tough find, but still.

I mean stringer things have happened in the automotive collector hobby; remember when Shelby found ALL of those number chassis behind the shed, Forgotten all about 'em ! ! ! Managed to get them all matched up with some probably forgotten Cobra bodies and sold them off.

Good for him, couldn't have happened to a nicer, more honest guy . . .
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Randy Brown
Highlands Ranch, Colorado, USA   usa
something is fishy. Post pictures to help us figure it out.

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David K
Los Angeles, CA, USA   usa
the car is all original. it has all the correct mk2 emblems.59000 miles. i think the data tag got swapped, but where else could you check the vin.
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Gil Dupre
Chattanooga, TN, USA   usa
1962 MG MGA
1974 MG MGB GT
Definitely not a twin came no knock off steel wheels. Be careful someone swapped vin tags try to trace back the previous owners. It has a story hope its not stolen. Does the engine have 1622 cast in it on rh side of block under front carb. What is the engine number. Is rear end a 4.1 ratio sn stamped on the housing behind passenger seat.
Look at Moss Cataloge for location of other numbers.



Gil



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Heath Racing
Tennessee, USA   usa
1959 MG MGA
1971 MG MGB GT
This car is definitely not a Twin Cam. I own Twin Cam YD3/2040 and everything is different.
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Randy Brown
Highlands Ranch, Colorado, USA   usa
That car has fraudulent title information. someone did something wrong and possibly illegal in its past. the car is a very nice looking 61-62 1600 MK11. the vin plate and title belong somewhere else. The reasons to put another vin plate on a nice car are typically fraudulent. If the history of this vehicle were to come out someone else may really own it. The title you are talking about may be for nothing more than Arizona beach front property. Check and see if there is a chassis # on the passenger floor frame rail. Originally there was a number stamped there. Though I have owned 7 MGAs I have only seen a number in that location in pictures of others cars.

David K
Los Angeles, CA, USA   usa
There is a number on the passenger side floor. But very hard to read
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Gary Edwards
Kernersville, ,N.C., USA   usa
I have looked at a number of As when I was looking for my late in life car. I couldn't find the number on any. The coupe I just bought has it plain as day. Love those Ca cars...



Gary



David K
Los Angeles, CA, USA   usa
other than under the front passenger seat where else should i ask the seller look for any id information?
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Larry Wheeler
Hillsboro, OR, USA   usa
1957 MG MGA "Rosie 2"
You'll have to talk the owner into pulling up the carpet in front of the passenger seat to check the frame cross-member, see http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101c.htm. Since it's probably glued down, you could be looking at new carpet and still not get the correct VIN number.

As stated, that number often doesn't stay visible once rust has gotten to it. I couldn't find a trace of it on mine.

If you can post the body number (see http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/buying/buy101b.htm), a guesstimate of the range the VIN number should be can be made.

I'd avoid this one lest it come back to bite you later.



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Jack Lindler
Greenville,SC, USA   usa
Try your darnedest to get the VIN off the frame and ask for it to be run through California DMV. If Brit Heritage identifies the state where the car was sold new, run it through that stat'e DMV as well if not California. See if it has ever been reported stolen. Sometimes people will sell cars without title - in some states, I understand a bill of sale was all that was required in some cases. Then later, if a person tries to register in a state that does require title, and the title has long since been lost, a title and ID plate from a junker is a convenient solution to a problem. Wonder where the "junker" twin cam is ??? Theft is a possibility, but not a certainty.

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