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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #21
SteveLandry Steve Landry Phoenix, AZ, USA 1948 MG TC 1959 MG MGA 1500 1960 Morgan Plus 4 (+4)	Posted: April 04, 2012 09:26AM Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 420

Hubs can be obtained in six or 9 bolt patterns from Watford Classic Cars in the UK for 20 to 30 pounds, or $31 to $47 USD. There is shipping to consider. but no duty. The 20 pound one is crinkle and the other is semi polished aluminum. I have one in the polished and am very happy with it, especially considering it is nearly a hundred bucks cheaper than the Moto Lita hubs.

http://www.mgbreakers.com/steeringwheels.htm

Cheerio,

Steve

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #22
TeamEvil / / Gone, /, Kiribati	Posted: April 04, 2012 10:25AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 1,443

Chuck,

Take a look here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-MGA-RACING-GREEN-TAN-INTERIOR-RESTORED-CAR-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/140734865914?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item20c473a1fa#v4-41

This car has the same steering wheel in at as yours. Not loving the cheezy horn button/crest (Nardi wheels seem to look their best with the satin aluminum trim ring and Nardi crest in place) but otherwise, looks VERY nice and right at home.

TC

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #23
wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: April 04, 2012 11:21AM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

In reply to # 2031107 by SteveLandry Hubs can be obtained in six or 9 bolt patterns from Watford Classic Cars in the UK for 20 to 30 pounds, or $31 to $47 USD. There is shipping to consider. but no duty. The 20 pound one is crinkle and the other is semi polished aluminum. I have one in the polished and am very happy with it, especially considering it is nearly a hundred bucks cheaper than the Moto Lita hubs.

http://www.mgbreakers.com/steeringwheels.htm

Cheerio,

Steve

...wont fit the personel or nardi....

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #24
TeamEvil / / Gone, /, Kiribati	Posted: April 04, 2012 11:33AM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 1,443

But for just another thirty bucks or so, there's a nice aluminum six bolt Momo to six bolt Nardi adapter/collar available if needs be.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sport-Line-Steering-Wheel-Spacer-Adapter-Kit-MOMO-to-Nardi-/140643747007?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20bf0544bf&vxp=mtr

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 11:37AM by TeamEvil.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #25
cschaefer Chuck Schaefer West Chicago,IL, USA	Posted: April 04, 2012 11:36AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 658

It looks like the hubs are for MotoLita wheels. I have sent them an e-mail asking if they have a hub that will fit the Personal/Nardi wheel. I will let you all know what their response is.

I have just listed this wheel for sale over in the Buy, Sell & Trade Forum

Click here

Thank you all for help in ID'ing this for me, and for the future owner.

Cheers,
Chuck

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #26
cschaefer Chuck Schaefer West Chicago,IL, USA	Posted: April 04, 2012 01:36PM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 658

As turns out, the generic knock-off e-bay hub adapters are drilled and tapped for both 70mm and 74mm 6 bolt patterns. The Nardi and Personal wheels use a 74mm pattern. I just fit my Personal wheel to my "other car's" adapter to verify this. While it fits the adapter, the horn accessory is not so easy. Most of the Gerneric eBay units standardize on the 6-bolt 70mm pattern for the horn surround. A steering wheel could be redrilled on that 70mm pattern. I believe that the horn escutcheon may cover the original holes.

I think that the MGA, MGB MK1, TR3, Morris Minor 1000 and mini all use the same 3/4" x 48 spline pattern. I'm not sure what else modern car might fit that same spline. or perhaps your car is commonly available. Just though I'd add another option.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #27
Restoman Dana R amston, connecticut, USA 1959 MG MGA 1500 1967 Jaguar E-Type Coupe 1968 MG MGC GT 1969 MG MGC	Posted: April 04, 2012 03:45PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 332

Chuck,
I've got a "personal - Nardi" wheel and they have 4 holes on the spokes,and their logo on the back, see first picture.
The other one I have, second photo, like yours, from what others on forums tell me, are a "knock off" of the Nardi
and only used 3 holes on one spoke to get around copyright laws. Unknown maker.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #28
wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: April 04, 2012 04:58PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

...the plot thickens...I say we call in inspector Clueseau...

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #29
TeamEvil / / Gone, /, Kiribati	Posted: April 04, 2012 05:14PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 1,443

Not to flog a dead horse TOO smartly, but . . .

My un-restored Nardi/Personal wheel has three holes on the vertical spoke, with the "Personal" and crown on the front side, and the "made in Italy" on the obverse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/TeamEvil/wheel4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/TeamEvil/wheel5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/TeamEvil/wheel1-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/TeamEvil/wheel2-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/TeamEvil/wheel3.jpg

Seems nothing's absolute in Nardiville.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #30
wyatt Wyatt W penguin point, drift ice, Antarctica 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1960 MG MGA 1966 MG MGB	Posted: April 04, 2012 05:35PM Registered: 7 years ago Posts: 23,301

..eyetalians...gotta love em....

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #31
cschaefer Chuck Schaefer West Chicago,IL, USA	Posted: April 04, 2012 05:36PM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 658

Quote: The other one I have, second photo, like yours, from what others on forums tell me, are a "knock off" of the Nardi
and only used 3 holes on one spoke to get around copyright laws. Unknown maker.

Not necessarily so from what I can tell and what others have confirmed. You may have 2 Personal wheels. Here are 3 photographic proofs of the Personal branded wheel with 4 holes in 2 spokes and 3 holes in the bottom spoke:

ebay wheel sold

2nd sold wheel

and one still active

Somewhere on the Nardi-Personal website I read where not all of their wheels were branded.

So you may have 2 Personal(Nardi) made wheels. Does your unbranded wheel have the same style date code stamped in the spoke as the marked wheel?

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #32
TeamEvil / / Gone, /, Kiribati	Posted: April 04, 2012 05:51PM Registered: 1 year ago Posts: 1,443

WHOA ! ! !

My wheel (check my picture links) is exactly like the one for the Porsche that sold for almost $600, right down to the button and trim ring covering the mounting screws. Time to break out the power wheel and buff up the spokes. I could pay for my front brakes with that kinda coin.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #33
Restoman Dana R amston, connecticut, USA 1959 MG MGA 1500 1967 Jaguar E-Type Coupe 1968 MG MGC GT 1969 MG MGC	Posted: April 04, 2012 06:26PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 332

The plot does thicken! I'll have to check the unmarked wheel when I get home. I almost think it just may have
a couple numbers onlyl. Here's a shot of the back of the personal.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #34
cschaefer Chuck Schaefer West Chicago,IL, USA	Posted: April 05, 2012 07:32AM Registered: 4 years ago Posts: 658

Dana, Interesting wheel you have there. In my research, all personal marked wheels I have seen photo of, have the brand mark "personal" with the crown logo, on the front side of the center spoke. Further, they all have the word "CALLAUDO" above "MADE IN ITALY" both stamped in capital letters on the back side of the center spoke AND there is a date code there too.

The marked wheel that you show has not got a crown in the name/logo, it is marked only on the back side, has "made in italy" in lower case letters, has not got the Callaudo name and has no date code.

I don't claim to be anything near an expert, just somewhat observant and curious. Could this one be a knock-off? Or did the manufacturing process change over the years?

Anybody?

Oh I got a reply from MGBreakers. I guess this officially closes that option for hubs:

In reply to a post by MGBreakers Hello,

sorry, we don't have bosses that will fit Nardi

Regards
Jane

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #35
Restoman Dana R amston, connecticut, USA 1959 MG MGA 1500 1967 Jaguar E-Type Coupe 1968 MG MGC GT 1969 MG MGC	Posted: April 05, 2012 04:46PM Registered: 2 years ago Posts: 332

OK, checked the "unknown" wheel and sure enough there is a date code 4 67 and what seems to be some of
the letters in "CALLAUDO" thumbs up smiley

So looks like both may be genuine.
Both came off MGC's and have the adapters for those splines that was only used for a couple of years, "67 - "69.
The one marked "personal" looks exactly like the one in the 1969 MGC brochure, offered as an option.

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Re: Can You ID This Steering Wheel? #36
mgbbrown Tony and Sharon Ann Brown Rougemont, North Carolina, USA 1969 MG MGB	Posted: June 30, 2012 10:47AM Registered: 6 years ago Posts: 1,417

Chuck; The wheel you have is the 1968-71 North American factoy optional wood wheel made by Personal of Italy. This wheel along with some Les Leston Grand Prix wheels were used to outfit the Limited Edition MGBGT. My 1968 MGB GT parts car was fitted with one. The spokes are brushed. Mine has been restored completely as fitted as a 1969 option, but I had to polish the spokes. It also incorporated the early MKII MGB horn push; but the one on my parts car used an MGB emblem manufactured by Personal. The factory sold these as accessories along with Amco's wooden gear shift knob and center console for 1969. God Bless! Tony Brown RN mgbrown

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