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Replacing old fuel hoses with ethanol-proof hoses

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riley1489 Gold Member Bruce H
Great White North, QC, Canada   CAN
1953 Jaguar XK120
1959 Riley 1.5 "King George"
1973 MG MGB
In reply to # 3535684 by tvrgeek I guess what the hose manufactures have to say in their specifications are not as significant as what experts in the forum say. Not my car. Whatever.

Scott
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GaryDLowrie Silver Member Gary Lowrie
Dewey, AZ, USA   USA
1971 MG MGB GT "The Green Dream"
1974 MG MGB "Pearl"
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tvrgeek Silver Member Scott S
Bowie, Maryland, USA   USA
1965 MG MGB
It means, I believe the manufactures specifications and their opinion if their hose is suitable for use with E-10, not the forum "experts" who know everything about everything. I took the trouble to go to the manufactures WEB sites and looked at their specifications.

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In reply to # 3535684 by tvrgeek I guess what the hose manufactures have to say in their specifications are not as significant as what experts in the forum say. Not my car. Whatever.

Scott
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riley1489 Gold Member Bruce H
Great White North, QC, Canada   CAN
1953 Jaguar XK120
1959 Riley 1.5 "King George"
1973 MG MGB
In reply to # 3536409 by tvrgeek It means, I believe the manufactures specifications and their opinion if their hose is suitable for use with E-10, not the forum "experts" who know everything about everything. I took the trouble to go to the manufactures WEB sites and looked at their specifications.

Accepted and heeded. But is it that important to be 'right'?

There is a great many opinions and egos to deal with on this forum, it behooves us all to 'sift through the rubble to find the nugget'.

Keep doing what you are doing it seems to work ....................

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Ex-Calif Gold Member Dan D
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For the pressures we deal with in the MGB fuel system braided steel is a trap that can definitely hide trouble...

Maybe useful on brake hoses with higher pressure but probably not needed there either.




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Rod H. Avatar
Amity, Oregon, USA   USA
1964 MG MGB
1968 MG MGB GT
If generic modern fuel hoses are not E10 proof, but E10 resistant, and last 10 or 15 years, I'd call that reasonable service life.



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tvrgeek Silver Member Scott S
Bowie, Maryland, USA   USA
1965 MG MGB
I don't care if anyone else thinks I am correct, I know what the manufactures said. If you don't believe me, go look yourself. Maybe one has changes their spec and we can expand the list.

Sure, 10 years is a good serviceable life for any rubber product. Never said it wasn't. All I said was the manufactures I found specs on said their hose was not recommended for E-10. Goodyear and Dayco for sure. I found it odd, E-85 seems to be less aggressive as some were rated for E-85 and not E-10. Continental and Gates Barricade were the only ones they rated for E-10. Gates is widely available and cheap, so what is the problem? I guess just proving someone else is wrong without any supporting evidence. SOP for this place.



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albeegreen1 Gold Member bob tresch
bordentown, nj, USA   USA
1972 MG MGB MkIII "ALBERT"
I simply look for use on carburetor line. But it is probably the same price for higher pressure line. Take your pick. Changing over your 40+ year car is good insurance. And use a clear fuel filter like Bosch. They look dinky but can handle more pressure than your MG will ever need on the same token. "It's all in the maintenance". I agree with no braided lines around SU'S they need extra scrutiny.

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riley1489 Gold Member Bruce H
Great White North, QC, Canada   CAN
1953 Jaguar XK120
1959 Riley 1.5 "King George"
1973 MG MGB
In reply to # 3536489 by tvrgeek I don't care if anyone else thinks I am correct, SOP for this place.

Scott,
Time to go to your happy place, no?

If your 'mini rant' is aimed at me you will note that I agree & also suggest the Gates hose as a good candidate. thumbs up as to the SOP of this forum, yup thumbs up and I don't see it changing any time soon. grinning smiley

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tvrgeek Silver Member Scott S
Bowie, Maryland, USA   USA
1965 MG MGB
Not till the trolls turn to stone. devil smiley

HP hose not necessary, we only run about 3 and a half PSI. 30R6 is the correct pressure spec.

The fuel filter should be picked for its filtering capability. Some let through almost sand size, 80 micron or worse, some as small as 5 micron. The SU is more tolerant of crap than the DGV, but why subject it? 10 to 20 seems reasonable to me. Just like the hose subject, READ THE SPECIFICATION. The physically larger filters will have less drop and are able to load up more before reducing the flow.
For example:
Wix 33033 is a steel case, 33003 is the plastic 3/8

WIX 33032 metal, 33002 plastic, 5/16 hose 20 micron as listed for the 65 B. Under $4.

Do you have the number and spec on the Bosch? More the known suitable the better. They do not list a cross reference on their WEB.

Thermomoid by my notes also said not for E10.



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MGB567 Gold Member Barrie Braxton
Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia   AUS
1966 MG MGB MkI "Money Guzzler"
1979 MG MGB GT V8 Conversion "Darkside"
Each to their own - I'll be using Speedflow on my GT.



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