Council Bluffs is on the Missouri River across the state from me so I am not looking...but the body looks sorted on this major project. No dog in this fight... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190584756704?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3841.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D190584756704%26_sacat%3D%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872654#msg-1872654 Sat, 18 May 2013 23:05:13 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875637#msg-1875637 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875637#msg-1875637
Switched to UK style on my car, due to cracked (and leaking) hotspots, difficult to weld. Another example where Europe and US (sometimes) don't match ;-)]]> laurenscgt MGC Forum Mon, 10 Oct 2011 02:32:32 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875572#msg-1875572 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875572#msg-1875572
If you go to the eBay listing and follow to the bottom, in the 4th picture from the bottom there is a good picture of the intake manifold. Just rear of center, on the balance tube section between the vacuum tap and the rear throtle mount you can see the Part Number 12B2846 cast in the manifold.

The sand cast version does not have the Part Number and it doesn't have the two small webs cast above the carb mounting areas, nor the webs between the port runners.

Picture attached shows the two versions I have.

C Ya,
Mark]]> Big6Mark MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 23:35:46 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875157#msg-1875157 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875157#msg-1875157
Yes a lot of unanswered questions, I am sure who ever gets the car may find them out. If it is one of the guys on the forum they may enighten us, if not we may never know.
Looks to be one of those cars if you are serious about you need to look at it and bring cash.

The other side of IA is too far for me and like you I do not like to deal with dealers. There was a MGCGT here in Charleston a couple of years ago at a major dealer and he did not have a clue what it was but sure thought he knew what it was worth.

Ron]]> ron neal MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:13:35 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875044#msg-1875044 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1875044#msg-1875044 There is a lot of speculation going on about all this...on my part as well. If anyone were serious, the listed sales agent should be contacted. He certainly offered asking or hammer price to me without solicitation but I also find it hard to believe anyone "out" over 20K would actually accept 9K for such a profoundly undone car regardless of the path it appears it's on to being completed. I think we all know there's a $5K paint issue right up front not to mention exactly what the interior and weather gear condition may be. And no need to mention putting someone else's jigsaw together without benefit of having taken it apart...only seasoned vets knowledgeable about the marque would qualify as "easy to do"... imho.

I've never been warm to any "dealers" offerings and have used same only twice in my life....got taken on the Mangusta despite warnings from Greg Fast who is a customer and by extension a friend who inspected it for me...did a little better with a $900 86 GMC S15 but still had to put some $ into it to make it run correctly.

In the grand scheme of things avoiding dealers and dealerships has saved me untold thousands...at least in my mind....]]> kirks-auto MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:30:53 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874954#msg-1874954 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874954#msg-1874954 Ron]]> ron neal MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:51:45 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874788#msg-1874788 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874788#msg-1874788
Kind of what I was thinking.....he said "have at it" until the dealership presented him with an interim bill of the magnitude he was not expecting....and he walked away from the whole project leaving the dealership no choice but to sell off what they have to recoup some of their outlay. I still think that this is going to be a good project for someone to finish.

Definate difference in the surface texture of the two manifolds. I have my "webless" and "smooth surfaced" die cast on as it simply looks better.


Cheers, Drew]]> mowog2 MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:20:01 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874782#msg-1874782 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874782#msg-1874782
OK!]]> laurenscgt MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:10:42 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874764#msg-1874764 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874764#msg-1874764 laurenscgt MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 06:04:55 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874762#msg-1874762 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874762#msg-1874762 In reply to a post by laurenscgt I have a manifold, stupid.
8-)]]> kirks-auto MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:59:46 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874758#msg-1874758 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874758#msg-1874758
:-)]]> laurenscgt MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:45:04 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874754#msg-1874754 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874754#msg-1874754 laurenscgt MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:27:01 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874734#msg-1874734 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874734#msg-1874734 kirks-auto MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:06:07 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874718#msg-1874718 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874718#msg-1874718 laurenscgt MGC Forum Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:44:50 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874692#msg-1874692 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874692#msg-1874692
There are actually two US-spec intake manifolds. One is sand-cast and the other is die-cast. The sand cast version doesn't show the Part Number on it like the die-cast version does. The port runners are separate on the sand cast whereas the die-cast has the three pairs of port runners joined by webs.
The internal finish on the sand-cast seems better than the die-cast, but the outside is better on the die-cast.
I thought that the sand-cast version might be an earlier part, but I've seen '68s that had the die-cast version and my early '69 GT had the sand-cast version.
Just one more of the oddities of the MG

Looking at the listing again I think you may be right about the "mechanic's lien" reason for the sale. Started as a "cost no object" restoration until it was an "object"?

C Ya,
Mark]]> Big6Mark MGC Forum Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:53:11 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874326#msg-1874326 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874326#msg-1874326 laurenscgt MGC Forum Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:39:58 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874279#msg-1874279 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874279#msg-1874279 romeo69 MGC Forum Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:16:43 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874215#msg-1874215 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874215#msg-1874215 In reply to a post by laurenscgt Is there a US saying that goes something like: "the more words, the less sense" ;-) 140 characters max. sharpens the thinking.
You're now going from my humorless sling and arrow antagonist to being my personal editor? Please keep in mind I made a living as a wordsmith. :I3::)-D:devil:]]> kirks-auto MGC Forum Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:18:12 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874110#msg-1874110 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1874110#msg-1874110
Mark....didn't know that there were two different intake US market intake manifolds.....acquired one a while back exactly the same as the one on this car and which had the same "webs" between the tubes, an extremely rough surface texture and poorly trimmed die part lines....I had thought it was just a reduction in quality on the overall casting.

Cheers, Drew]]> mowog2 MGC Forum Sat, 08 Oct 2011 07:23:20 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873800#msg-1873800 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873800#msg-1873800

All of those openings really got to me to...wonder why someone would do that??...I'd say you would really have to see it. That drivers door looks wonky to me??]]> PaulM MGC Forum Fri, 07 Oct 2011 17:12:38 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873789#msg-1873789 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873789#msg-1873789 laurenscgt MGC Forum Fri, 07 Oct 2011 17:02:22 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873754#msg-1873754 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873754#msg-1873754 kirks-auto MGC Forum Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:32:49 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873685#msg-1873685 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1873685#msg-1873685
Side marker mounting holes still evident on rear wings. By this time the original bonnet could have been made in steel.

Don't know where all the money invested has gone, perhaps to new sheetmetal all around. Front wings are replacements (1970-1974 type.) Doors look like new also (looks like Part No. tags on inner face, black/brown primer.) Likely Heritage parts. Probably rockers, possibly the bootlid, too. Quality work it would appear as the tar/asphalt sound deadening material on the floor is properly replaced.

Should be a 4-speed with overdrive car as auto transmission cooler is not fitted. Later die-cast intake manifold installed.

If all there waiting to be finished it could be a good car for anyone looking for a roadster, especially if the price doesn't go too high.

C Ya,
Mark]]> Big6Mark MGC Forum Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:13:00 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872912#msg-1872912 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872912#msg-1872912 I can honestly say that between Davenport Iowa and the Colorado border with Nebraska there are probably only a half dozen MGCs that I know. I have never heard of the dealer and he seems totally out of water with what he's got.

Dropped the "dime"...


Just spoke with listed salesman who says the "owner" owns the car and had "his" dealership rebuild it at a cost of $22,000 as it sits. Asking is 9K. As Mr Robert Simmons continued to refer to "we" I asked for who "we" was and also the name of the "owners" whereupon he replied, he, Robert was the owners rep but would have the owner get in contact with me. Not wishing to get into a Bill Clinton debate on what is is or what owner is owner of, i declined. I can tell you I have no MGC customers in the area of Council Bluffs so presumably any new parts are from Kansas or Moss.

I asked what parts come with the car and he said "all"...
I asked specifically if the bonnet was steel or alloy, he opined steel.

I then told him I hold myself in the highest esteem as one knowledgable about MGCs, telling him it could not possibly be a 1967 given the numbers, that the bonnet should be alloy and I would follow up on that, and that if indeed an early car it should have the side markers...but those two holes are small enough I couldn't seem them from my front porch nor perhaps in the pictures which are an easier view....

I just thew that in to get Laurens blood pressure built back up...seems the red has rushed from his neck earlier today...:devil:

There are two toll free numbers, I called and got Robert direct at 1 866 981 2380
His personal email is
amerisoldier@gmail.com

Were I interested, I would call the other toll free 1 877 623 2166 and ask to please speak with the owner and fish exactly who owns this dealership. And determine if this is a consigned piece or indeed the property of the dealership owner or simply the property of the car owner. Too many subtle word games and lax use of pronouns for me to play at midweek with a used car salesman all of whom I consider masters of dog and pony shadow shows...




On the possible upside, it is far enough west that it may be salt free. They take snow rather seriously out in the plains and salt doesn't have much effect on 12 foot snow drifts. Chisel plows and gravel are what are typically used in the winter "out West"...


So, my take is there are entirely too many unanswered questions. My heart skipped a beat or two to see a "rebuilt engine" sitting in an obviously recently mostly sanded car, with so many openings in the engines cavities. I will not belabor the fact someone may have piled a heap of money into a car less than half done by my look, missing a key and unique part covering the motor, reportedly "restored" to this point by a car dealership (read that as $60-$100/per man hour even if you own the dealership as was implied)and some rather dicey "answers" to honest questions.


22K invested asking 9K hmmmmm. Of course if the dealership owner is indeed the car owner receipts would not present a real problem.....
On the other hand why would a car dealership owner allow something so unprofessional completed and be shilled on Efee?


Hope that is enough or more than enough of what I know and think about this.]]> kirks-auto MGC Forum Thu, 06 Oct 2011 13:32:28 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872854#msg-1872854 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872854#msg-1872854
Dan Murphy]]> murphymgc MGC Forum Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:08:12 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872678#msg-1872678 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872678#msg-1872678
Can't believe Ron missed that one.... :)

Drew]]> mowog2 MGC Forum Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:43:19 -0500 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872654#msg-1872654 http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?48,1872654,1872654#msg-1872654
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190584756704?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fmotors.shop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3841.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D190584756704%26_sacat%3D%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1]]> kirks-auto MGC Forum Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:13:44 -0500