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windshield reassembly issue
Posted by mansep2
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Ok I am in the process of replacing my windshield and seem to have run into a problem that is completely out of my control and impossible to fix as it would appear this is how it came from the factory, wondering if anyone has seen this.
ok the side rail where it meets the bottom rail is where I have the issue, on the drivers side the two meet nice and tightly with no issue however on the passenger side there is a gap that is impossible to close as the screws in the bottom of the rail are in and this does not allow any adjustment. if I push the side rail fully up to the bottom rail the screw holes are out of alignment and you need to separate the two to get the screws in.
so do I just live with this and pack it with sealant?
1973 MGB, restoration while maintaining drivability
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ok the side rail where it meets the bottom rail is where I have the issue, on the drivers side the two meet nice and tightly with no issue however on the passenger side there is a gap that is impossible to close as the screws in the bottom of the rail are in and this does not allow any adjustment. if I push the side rail fully up to the bottom rail the screw holes are out of alignment and you need to separate the two to get the screws in.
so do I just live with this and pack it with sealant?
1973 MGB, restoration while maintaining drivability
I own an MG............Lots of fun and frustration........Just can't beat it.
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Michael74MGB
Michael Austin
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Apr 30, 2017 06:26 PM
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The windshield frame fit is, well, bad at best. Not exactly British Leyland's finest hour. I don't think those brackets are available, maybe through Moss in Europe, but even in replacing them there is no guarantee it will fit any better. One thing to try, and this is a long-shot, is to fit it together without the glass. See if, under those conditions, it fits up any better. If not, you may be SOL. Was it like this before? A lot of people don't notice, to be honest. The final option is as you suggested, pack it full of sealant and make it as pretty as you can!
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Apr 30, 2017 06:28 PM
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You probably need to have a local auto glass shop take care of your problems.
I have had my 1977 MGB windshield removed and replaced four (4) times since I purchased the car in 1983 . . . 79,000 miles since then.
Then have your insurance agent add Comprehensive insurance coverage, which includes most every problem that is not a "COLLISION."
Roger N. Tanner
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I have had my 1977 MGB windshield removed and replaced four (4) times since I purchased the car in 1983 . . . 79,000 miles since then.
Then have your insurance agent add Comprehensive insurance coverage, which includes most every problem that is not a "COLLISION."
Roger N. Tanner
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In reply to # 3501135 by Michael74MGB
The windshield frame fit is, well, bad at best. Not exactly British Leyland's finest hour. I don't think those brackets are available, maybe through Moss in Europe, but even in replacing them there is no guarantee it will fit any better. One thing to try, and this is a long-shot, is to fit it together without the glass. See if, under those conditions, it fits up any better. If not, you may be SOL. Was it like this before? A lot of people don't notice, to be honest. The final option is as you suggested, pack it full of sealant and make it as pretty as you can!
There was all sorts of goop in the corners so this was not really visible when I took it apart, at least I did not look at it that closely to identify this, my concern if I was to contemplate a redo the corner brackets to fit is that it would then be too narrow to fit into the body. May have to just live with it, take it apart and use plumbers putty to fill the gap.
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Keith Delta4
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Apr 30, 2017 07:55 PM
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I am in the thought process of reassembling my windscreen. I am with Michaels idea first, I would try the fit without the glass first to see if the fit is tight. Original glass or Chinese import? If the frame fits tight my next step would be to gently pull the sides together with straps. Last, is the rubber central on the glass before the frame is offered up? Keith
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Glass or no glass makes no difference as the bracket is a fixed size and the bottom rail has the screw holes set so there is no way to tighten this up unless I change the bracket and re-drill and tap the screw holes to fit however as stated before that will move the side rail in a bit and may then not fit the body.
I was just interested if anyone else had come up against this sort of factory defect and hw did they deal with it
1973 MGB, restoration while maintaining drivability
I own an MG............Lots of fun and frustration........Just can't beat it.
I was just interested if anyone else had come up against this sort of factory defect and hw did they deal with it
1973 MGB, restoration while maintaining drivability
I own an MG............Lots of fun and frustration........Just can't beat it.
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Apr 30, 2017 08:42 PM
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MGB Windshields ALWAYS a problem. Just finished a 1972 MGB, Glass was cracked, all the aluminum was pitted. My customer brought a GOOD 1971 frame, good glass, perfect aluminum, but would not fit the car. Had to cut back the pillar posts to get the attachment bolt holes to line up. GO FIGURE. Pictures here, I will see if I can up load ?? First time. Lets see what happens.
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In reply to # 3501244 by Thurlowb
Did you replace the brackets. Most of the time the old ones are shot....but the new ones might not be exactly the same...
Nope all original stuff used as the brackets were in great shape so that is not it, just seems to be how it was, bummer eh!
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Apr 30, 2017 11:03 PM
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I had a similar problem replacing a windshield that I purchase new ( triplex). I finally took the glass to a glass shop and they shaved the bulges on either side of the windshield. ( see photo before grinding). The old windshield that came out of the frame fit perfect but the new one did not match it. I don't understand why they can't just match an old windshield!
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