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vent frame and door glass alignment
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Sep 17, 2014 03:38 PM
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I noticed the vent frame and the door glass are not in alignment from front to rear. Is this normal?
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
I noticed the vent frame and the door glass are not in alignment from front to rear. Is this normal?
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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Sep 17, 2014 05:42 PM
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Always looked that way since I got the car.
As for the quote, it's most commonly attributed to Einstein but a quick search of the internet shows the actual origin is unclear.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
As for the quote, it's most commonly attributed to Einstein but a quick search of the internet shows the actual origin is unclear.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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Sep 18, 2014 06:40 PM
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Frank,
Some of that can be adjusted out. Be prepared for frustration. Many fasteners to loosen & tighten in a sequence yet to be determined.
Start by loosening the barrel nuts and the 2 front vent bolts. Play with the front window rail track adjustment at the bottom inside door cavity, then snug the top barrel nuts. Ensure the thick plates/washers are used on the barrel nuts. Finally tighten the 2 front vent bolts. In my experience this will need doing at least twice.
You will most likely then require to align the rear window channel for ease of window up/down.
Bruce
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Some of that can be adjusted out. Be prepared for frustration. Many fasteners to loosen & tighten in a sequence yet to be determined.
Start by loosening the barrel nuts and the 2 front vent bolts. Play with the front window rail track adjustment at the bottom inside door cavity, then snug the top barrel nuts. Ensure the thick plates/washers are used on the barrel nuts. Finally tighten the 2 front vent bolts. In my experience this will need doing at least twice.
You will most likely then require to align the rear window channel for ease of window up/down.
Bruce
Life's most persistent and urgent question is, "What are you doing for others?"
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Sep 18, 2014 10:55 PM
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Bruce,
I've been fiddling with them and resolved most of the alignment issue. The door sheet metal will have to be "massaged" just a bit at the rear barrel nut... the sheet metal is preventing the vent frame from moving out the little bit needed to get good alignment with the door glass. I'll have to drill out two rivets holding the frame's bottom mounting tab before I can completely remove the frame.
While I'm there I'll be making the COD repair.
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
I've been fiddling with them and resolved most of the alignment issue. The door sheet metal will have to be "massaged" just a bit at the rear barrel nut... the sheet metal is preventing the vent frame from moving out the little bit needed to get good alignment with the door glass. I'll have to drill out two rivets holding the frame's bottom mounting tab before I can completely remove the frame.
While I'm there I'll be making the COD repair.
In reply to # 2800835 by riley1489
Frank,
Some of that can be adjusted out. Be prepared for frustration. Many fasteners to loosen & tighten in a sequence yet to be determined.
Start by loosening the barrel nuts and the 2 front vent bolts. Play with the front window rail track adjustment at the bottom inside door cavity, then snug the top barrel nuts. Ensure the thick plates/washers are used on the barrel nuts. Finally tighten the 2 front vent bolts. In my experience this will need doing at least twice.
You will most likely then require to align the rear window channel for ease of window up/down.
Bruce
Some of that can be adjusted out. Be prepared for frustration. Many fasteners to loosen & tighten in a sequence yet to be determined.
Start by loosening the barrel nuts and the 2 front vent bolts. Play with the front window rail track adjustment at the bottom inside door cavity, then snug the top barrel nuts. Ensure the thick plates/washers are used on the barrel nuts. Finally tighten the 2 front vent bolts. In my experience this will need doing at least twice.
You will most likely then require to align the rear window channel for ease of window up/down.
Bruce
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:52 AM
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In reply to # 2801023 by ErnieY
Before playing with the window I'd try slackening off the windscreen bolts and the centre support and see if you can get the gap you need that way.
Frank,
In my case the misalignment was exacerbated after performing the repair for the COD. Once again patience is the tool of choice.
Ernie,
We are discussing the for/aft aesthetic alignment of the main window glass vs the vent window frame. The windshield frame has no influence on this alignment.
Bruce
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As I've fiddled with the vent window frame, it's clear to me that the windshield frame is too far back (aft, as some are wont to say). As Ernie observed, the seal twixt the vent frame and windshield is overly compressed. The vent frame is as far back on the door as it will go, so the windshield must move.
However, to avoid mission creep
I'm leaving the vent windows for now and getting back to preparing for installation of the new interior kit. For example: it's amazing how many holes/cracks/crevasses there are in the bulkhead between the trunk/boot and the cockpit. 
Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
However, to avoid mission creep
I'm leaving the vent windows for now and getting back to preparing for installation of the new interior kit. For example: it's amazing how many holes/cracks/crevasses there are in the bulkhead between the trunk/boot and the cockpit. Pogo is right.
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The power of reasons is an illusion. The belief will not change when the reasons are defeated. The causality is reversed. People believe the reasons because they believe in the conclusion.
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Sep 19, 2014 01:50 PM
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When you do get around to it this is how I gauge if the window/screen relationship is correct.
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