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Nicecar Gary (ex "Harv") G
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1980 MG MGB "Red On Red On Red"
Some months ago I removed these from something, not even sure it was MGB. My memory? tells me they were replaced.

They were dirty and soaked them in CLR for weeks.

I have been wondering what they're from. May not even be from MG.

Photo (4493) shows 25 the same, and two different.

The bolt heads have the number "4" stamped on them. The 25 are 5/8" long, and almost screw into a standard 1/4" nut, but thread pitch isn't right.

Ideas?


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Perdido Gold Member Rut Rutledge
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Harv,
Looks like oil pan to me.
Rut

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forestghost07 Marco Sinai
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In reply to # 2784883 by Nicecar

The bolt heads have the number "4" stamped on them. The 25 are 5/8" long, and almost screw into a standard 1/4" nut, but thread pitch isn't right.

Ideas?

The thread pitch is apparently UNF (fine thread) if by "standard nut" you mean a common SAE - coarse threaded one. Probably from your B, enough there to be oil pan

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Oil pans have 11 or 12 bolts depending on 3 main or 5 main pan. There's too many there.



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ohlord Platinum Member Rob C
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1957 Land Rover Series I "EYEYIYI"
1957 Land Rover Series I "OVRLND"
1971 MG MGB
1971 MG MGB "Bedouin 2"    & more
3 main used 19 5 main used 18 1/4- 28 sump bolts I'm tired but I know it is more than 11 or 12confused smiley



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And some bolts for holding the gasoline tank from above (later types were different though). Another possibility would be somewhere in the bodywork, e.g. the bolts under the side panels holding the fenders. I also have some of these bolts since I own a MGB, but wouldn't know for sure either where they came from.

PS Carterpan bolts would be oily and not oxydised. Besides I feel the rings are too large for them to fit in the rim,

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ohlord Platinum Member Rob C
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1957 Land Rover Series I "EYEYIYI"
1957 Land Rover Series I "OVRLND"
1971 MG MGB
1971 MG MGB "Bedouin 2"    & more
Not saying they are Carterpan bolts just that they are the right size if 1/4-28 fit 7/16 socket and both engines (3 main and 5 main) take more than 11 or 12 as someone stated.
Most likely radiator support bolts as there are 20 of them and 20 radiator support holes if they are 5/16-24 fit 1/2 inch socket
Math is off if the OP counted 25winking smiley

In reply to # 2784996 by Donthuis And some bolts for holding the gasoline tank from above (later types were different though). Another possibility would be somewhere in the bodywork, e.g. the bolts under the side panels holding the fenders. I also have some of these bolts since I own a MGB, but wouldn't know for sure either where they came from.

PS Carterpan bolts would be oily and not oxydised. Besides I feel the rings are too large for them to fit in the rim,



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I didn't think any bolts on an MGB had the washer built into the head? I thought they were all regular hex head bolts with separate washers. So I'm going to say they're not from you MG, they're from you motorbike or lawnmower.



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dickmoritz Platinum Member Dick Moritz
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In reply to # 2784990 by ohlord 3 main used 19 5 main used 18 1/4- 28 sump bolts

Rob x2...

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fast-MG.com Dave Headley
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My (old)eyeball suggests they might be M6-1.0, so not MG. Any marking on top?

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Add in timing cover...

In reply to # 2784955 by Basil Adams Oil pans have 11 or 12 bolts depending on 3 main or 5 main pan. There's too many there.



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Donthuis Don van Riet
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I looked up the two bolts I have in possession and which closely resemble the group of bolts in the picture above the line of the three others.

Mine has a shield with the capital letters BH in raised form on top and it is definitely coarse in thread. It very nearly fits an UNC nut, found by matching it with one of the two sides of the (UNF/UNC) bolts on the manifold. When looking towards it from the threaded part to the combined head + ring one can see the bolt is oval. Oval in the sense that a rounded off triangle is visible. In my opinion this means a bolt that is intended to be mounted by force with a kind of self-tapping and/or self-locking action. I repeat therefor my earlier remark: it may be intended to pull parts of the body structure together. eye rolling smiley

Only problem is Porter's does not list the BH as a bolt/thread type in the MGB (BSW is mentioned, but not on my bolt). Story will be continued.. confused smiley

PS I remember from the years I had my restoration job, one MG expert said to me he always used British type of bolts if they were present before, but others just forced metric ones in some of the locations on the bodypanels, because they entered by force anyhow. This would explain the resemblance to a M6?-1.0 bolt mentioned earlier by Dave.

I will compare it with an M6-1.0 if I possess one, or if need be with my metric tapping set (outer side taps): ended up by measuring M8-9 tapered on taps -1,25 as measured on the thread measurement tools. See also my reaction too Ernie Y



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Nicecar Gary (ex "Harv") G
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1980 MG MGB "Red On Red On Red"
Thanks all!

They're not from oil pan. As stated, the 25 have "4" stamped on bolt head.

I also have done no major work on my MG, Honda 600 VLS or Subaru Loyale.

My recollection is that 2 similar things were taken apart, and bolts from one used. Greasy, I cleaned these. Should have thrown these out, but decided to keep them "just in case". That'll learn me!

So great thanks, but no -one else should spend any time on suggestions.

But how could I forget taking something apart with 27 bolts?
Losing memory is frightening!

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