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mgcyclo Tim Rich
Township of Washinghton, NJ, USA   USA
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Firstly: 1970 MGB-GT, Dual system / non-servo (NOTE: The 5 way block has been eliminted so I have dedicated front / rear systems.)

Start with the brake closest the master and work to the one furthest away or the other way around?

Thanks,

Tim

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Tradition would say 'start with farthest'.

I've never heard a good explanation for why that is, other than all our dad's told us to do it that way.



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LENZ Jim B
Leominster, MA, USA   USA
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I have done farthest first. an tighten bleeder before you let pedal up after air is out.

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29desoto Gold Member M Wayne Sanders
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1965 MG MGB V6 Conversion "Carmine"
1973 MG MGB GT "Eliza - FIRST PLACE - MG2013"
1984 Chevrolet Corvette "The Green Weenie"
1994 Chevrolet S10 "Lil Red"
Tim -

Start at the furthest away and work towards the MC.smiling bouncing smiley



Wayne Sanders
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79/65 MGB - Carmine- V-6 - T-5

This car is now very nearly completely done. Sure to find something else, but not now.........And 12 years later, I'm starting to fix things that were new when we built the car. It's pretty well de-bugged!

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29desoto Gold Member M Wayne Sanders
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1965 MG MGB V6 Conversion "Carmine"
1973 MG MGB GT "Eliza - FIRST PLACE - MG2013"
1984 Chevrolet Corvette "The Green Weenie"
1994 Chevrolet S10 "Lil Red"
Steve types faster than I do!

I heard the reason for starting furthest away is that if you start closer, you may "contaminate" the closer lines with air while bleeding the further ones. Kind of made sense to me.smiling bouncing smiley



Wayne Sanders
Rose Lodge, OR
(TD 4288)

"I don't care to belong to any club that accepts people like me"-joined Willamette Valley Club in 2011

79/65 MGB - Carmine- V-6 - T-5

This car is now very nearly completely done. Sure to find something else, but not now.........And 12 years later, I'm starting to fix things that were new when we built the car. It's pretty well de-bugged!

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Old Norm W B (Disabled)
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Here's one explanation:

"The longest "run" to a wheel cylinder is going to have the lowest pressure due to having the most surface area due to the length of the tubing run. Usually, this "low pressure" is going to cause the air to migrate in that direction. It's like electricity taking the path of least resistance in a circuit."

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mgcyclo Tim Rich
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Thanks all,

Glad I asked as obviuosly I had this process reversed.

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Old Norm W B (Disabled)
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In reply to # 2774478 by 29desoto Steve types faster than I do!

I heard the reason for starting furthest away is that if you start closer, you may "contaminate" the closer lines with air while bleeding the further ones. Kind of made sense to me.smiling bouncing smiley

Another similar reason:

"The reason behind bleeding farthest to nearest is because if there is air in the rear brake lines and you bleed the front first it will draw that air back into the brake lines. You'll get the air out of the front since the lines to the front brakes are short, but the lines to the rear of the car are quite long, so the air just gets stuck in the middle.
If you are like most you bleed the brake several times before going to the next brake, thus drawing the air well into the brake system.
There is a chance you might not ever get a nice firm pedal. The air would just keep going back and forth but never out."

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gooser Drake Myers
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now that you've got your question answered why did you eliminate your junction box?

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mgcyclo Tim Rich
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Hi Drake,

I figured someone would ask that.

It's a long story, I'll try to summarize.

1) It leaked as they all do and was properly plugged a long, long tme ago.
2) Because of that it always bothered me that it was there.
3) Along comes a V-8 conversion along with a Ford rear,
4) Brake balance goes all out whack
5) Decide to install a proprtioning valve to help rectify balance
6) Bye bye junction box
7) Brakes balance still way off
8) Researsh shows incorrectly sized rear brake cylinders
9) Work with a very patient / understanding counter guy at my local Napa store to source the correct size brake cylinders
10) Brake balance restored, junction box long gone.

Not, bad. About ten years history in 10 bullet points :-)

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