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Planetary gear reduction starter #1
geezer charles durning Magee, MS, USA Sign in to contact 1967 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) "Marvin" 1974 MG MGB GT "Foghorn Leghorn"	Topic Creator (OP) Jan 16, 2017 04:26 PM Top Contributor Joined 13 years ago 6,490 Posts

Has anyone tried this starter from BPNW? I'm a fan of gear reduction starters and really like permanent magnet starters. This one looks just like the one we use on a 3.0L gas engine we use in our gensets. That one is bullet proof.

http://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/mgb/engine-electrical/starter-new-mgb-68-to-80.html

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #2
dickmoritz Dick Moritz Philly 'burbs, PA, USA Sign in to contact	Jan 16, 2017 04:28 PM Top Contributor Joined 14 years ago 26,271 Posts

Ahhh... But does it use compound epicyclic gears? ..... cool smiley

Dick

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #3
wbacall Walter Bacall Canyon Country, CA, USA Sign in to contact 1969 MG MGB 1976 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 1994 Chevrolet Camaro	Jan 16, 2017 04:33 PM Top Contributor Joined 17 years ago 439 Posts

I use the Hi Torque gear reduction in my MGB and love it.

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #4
RAY 67 TOURER Ray Marloff Fort Bragg, CA, USA Sign in to contact 1967 MG MGB "My Girl"	Jan 16, 2017 04:39 PM Top Contributor Joined 14 years ago 17,490 Posts

I'm still using an original '68 pre-engaged starter that required $1 in repairs 30 years ago. The car always starts right up. RAY

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #5
MRoadster Jim Wulf Doylestown, PA, USA Sign in to contact 1938 MG TA Tickford "The TA" 1939 Lea-Francis Corsica Super Sports "The Corsica" 1963 Ford Thunderbird "The M Car" 1967 MG MGB MkI "The B"	Jan 16, 2017 04:57 PM Joined 10 years ago 836 Posts

In reply to # 3431823 by geezer Has anyone tried this starter from BPNW? I'm a fan of gear reduction starters and really like permanent magnet starters. This one looks just like the one we use on a 3.0L gas engine we use in our gensets. That one is bullet proof.

http://www.bpnorthwest.com/mg/mgb/engine-electrical/starter-new-mgb-68-to-80.html

Kenny (dipstick) has one on his car that he bought from me, brand new, and he can speak to its durability. I found that it won't work on positive earth cars, which is why I sold it.

Here's a short discussion of the two types of gear reduction starters:

http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?1,3420843,3421691#msg-3421691

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #6
geezer charles durning Magee, MS, USA Sign in to contact 1967 Morris Minor 1000 Saloon (2-door) "Marvin" 1974 MG MGB GT "Foghorn Leghorn"	Topic Creator (OP) Jan 16, 2017 06:34 PM Top Contributor Joined 13 years ago 6,490 Posts

Well I know about the offset gear reduction starters (Denso). I have one on my Magnette. It works very good. What I don't like about it is only 2 screws holding the 2 bolt flange to the GR housing. I have seen those flanges fail. What I like about the one in the original post is the 2 bolt flange is part of the GR reduction housing. BTW I also have a GR starter (DENSO) on my Morris Minor from an Isuzu truck (pictured below). It has a fixed flange. Tried on the MGB but it hits the foot well.

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Information in my journal may not be suitable for those who are sensitive. View at your own risk.

Know the rules well so you can break them effectively. Dalai Lama

That is why I always say, who cares how the factory did it, they did so many things so wrong, they were never the example to follow. Hap Waldrop

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #7
dipstick Kenny Snyder (RIP) La Center, WA, USA Sign in to contact 1941 Ford N-Series 1958 MG MGA 1500 Coupe "Rosie" 1970 MG MGB GT "Pat's GT" 1971 MG MGB "Gifted To Me" & more	Jan 17, 2017 08:42 AM Top Contributor Joined 15 years ago 7,564 Posts

I have successfully used gear reduction starters on the racecar and street MGB-GT for many years. For the street 1971 I used the gear reduction starter so I could use the hanging oil filter.

Be safe out there.
Kenny

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #8
tvrgeek Scott S Hillsborough, North Carolinia, USA Sign in to contact 1973 Triumph Stag	Jan 17, 2017 02:15 PM Top Contributor Joined 8 years ago 15,011 Posts

I like mine. I was told they all use the same actual starter A couple of people make the back plate, so some small differences. I also changed my battery cables to 6 Ga. Cables, as in moving the ground cable up to the bolt right above the starter. It seems to hit harder, but that is subjective. I use one on my Morgan too. Very happy.

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Re: Planetary gear reduction starter #9
ohlord Rob C A tiny Island off the coast of Washington State, N.W., USA Sign in to contact 1957 Land Rover Series I "EYEYIYI" 1957 Land Rover Series I "OVRLND" 1971 MG MGB 1971 MG MGB "Bedouin 2" & more	Jan 17, 2017 02:37 PM Top Contributor Joined 12 years ago 28,878 Posts

The one from bpnw isn't the same nippondenso high torque gear reduction starter as British Starters.
Don't confuse the two.

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