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New plugs...new life
Posted by Kats Bee
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I have been having a misfire problem with our '77 MGB on start for about a month until I changed the spark plugs last week, now all is well......no misfire, starts right up. At the same time the car was experiencing a run-on problem, so I filled up with a tank of 93 octane. Run on disappeared!! Now all the cars needs is a good OD and cruise control.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-25 08:48 PM by Kats Bee.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-25 08:48 PM by Kats Bee.
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In reply to # 3135191 by 9146
Never had a bad NGK plug in almost 50 years.
Never had a bad Champion plug in 44yrs. Just curious Rick, I know NGK has been making spark plugs since 1936, but in 1965 there were very few, if any Japanese cars driving around the US, where'd you find NGK plugs back then. You were obviously a very early adapter, Tim
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Scott,
Why is .035 pushing it for points?
Spec for his car called for .035
Thousands upon thousands and thousands of MGB's called for .035
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Why is .035 pushing it for points?
Spec for his car called for .035
Thousands upon thousands and thousands of MGB's called for .035
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Apparently BMC didn't think so....
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions"--Alvin "Tex" Johnston...Boeing test pilot.
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73 MGB. Tires: Round, black, hold air. Oil: Sometimes old, sometimes new...always slippery. Oil filter: Yellow, usually full of oil. Carbs: 2 SU HIF. Distributor: Yes. Headlights: Not that bright but bright enough. A bunch of other stuff most cars have but not really important enough to itemize. Oh, wait...it has a cool sounding exhaust with stickers on the chrome tips. Really slays the ladies...
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.035 is pushing it for points.
.035 is pushing it for points.
"One test is worth a thousand expert opinions"--Alvin "Tex" Johnston...Boeing test pilot.
"Who do you think you are? I am."...Pete Weber
73 MGB. Tires: Round, black, hold air. Oil: Sometimes old, sometimes new...always slippery. Oil filter: Yellow, usually full of oil. Carbs: 2 SU HIF. Distributor: Yes. Headlights: Not that bright but bright enough. A bunch of other stuff most cars have but not really important enough to itemize. Oh, wait...it has a cool sounding exhaust with stickers on the chrome tips. Really slays the ladies...
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As with all things, plug gap is a compromise.
The wider the gap, the more reliable the firing of the mixture, BUT the voltage needs to be higher to jump the gap, causing the HV side of things to be higher stressed and more likely to break down.
I suspect that going from 0.025 to 0.035 had to do with improvements in materials for the HV parts.
Of course the coil needs to be able to produce a high enough voltage to jump the gap.
Herb
The wider the gap, the more reliable the firing of the mixture, BUT the voltage needs to be higher to jump the gap, causing the HV side of things to be higher stressed and more likely to break down.
I suspect that going from 0.025 to 0.035 had to do with improvements in materials for the HV parts.
Of course the coil needs to be able to produce a high enough voltage to jump the gap.
Herb
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Champion fell out of favor, in the late '70s, due to improper labeling of their heat ranges. A lot of engines suffered holed pistons due to the error. When I worked as a mechanic in a motorcycle shop, we carried a motorcycle made in Spain called Gas Gas. They came from the factory with Champion plugs, but every single one of them failed before we could deliver the bike to the customer. We carried NGK plugs exclusively. The only defective plug, that I came across, was one of the four that I fitted to my Honda Shadow 700 V Twin. It ran two plugs per cylinder and one was not firing. I thought, at first, that I had an internal problem, but just to be on the safe side I replaced the suspect plug. Problem cure. They're the only plugs that I run on my supercharged B. However, when I purchased the supercharger kit from Moss, back in '02, it came with a set of cooler running Champion plugs. A short while after, Moss informed me that they were experiencing problems with the supplied Champion plugs and suggested a switch to NGK. RAY
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Non Points Scott? Since when was an MGB running a 45D4 distributor a non points distributor
Again what is pushing it?
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Again what is pushing it?
In reply to # 3135356 by tvrgeek
Yes, the later non-points electronic ignitions.
Run what you want. As I said, it depends on the coil.
Run what you want. As I said, it depends on the coil.
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