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mwhitney Mike Whitney
Summerland, BC, Canada   CAN
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Hey guys - just picked up my first shipment of parts (new turn signal, wheel wrench, new visors / visor clips, some stainless door sills, a service manual! and a boot seal from McGregor based on the info here).

Minor point, I'm sure, but I'd rather do this once. There's a little bead / fin that runs off the main 'body' of the trim. Should the fin be closer to the lid or the body?

Also - for the stainless trim pieces, there are 6 holes to screw them to the body. I'm thinking stainless flat-head screws but not crazy about putting holes in the body (another entry point for water etc. Would a 3M type tape work here? What would you suggest?

Second question:

I was changing the oil last weekend (Castrol GT 20/50 and Lucas additive, again thanks to this forum), and noticed my front bushings are all compressed and cracked.

I've read the neoprene ones are the best as far as longevity. Can you guys recommend a complete kit at a reasonable price?

Thanks in advance!

Mike



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-05-29 10:42 PM by mwhitney.

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Billsboat Bill Wakefield
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Mike, in regards to sill trim. I suppose there is a few ways to think about it. One, if you were to drill holes to mount it as it is designed, (assuming it's not a daily driver, and garage kept) all you would need to do is put a dab of silicone on each hole before you put the screw in, and I would think you would never have to worrie about it in your life time...assuming your not 5 years old:-)

The other way would be to go with panel glue. As I understand the product, it is permanent, and would achieve a soiled connection.

As far as the 3m tape, I'm not sure it would hold up over tims (heat, cold, moisture) but if it's cheap, what do you have to loose?

Good luck

Bill

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gnflanagan Greg Flanagan
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I just received the same seal but I gave it to my painter to install. I talked to Martin on the phone and he said that there was a small lip on the seal and that lip faces away from the boot. I hope that makes some sense. I am not sure about neoprene bushings but five years ago I replaced all of the bushings with red urethane bushings from Moss. Most suppliers offer kits. They are usually cheaper in a kit and it is a lot less hassle than ordering them all separately. It made a huge difference in how the car rode and handled. Replacing the bushings is not too difficult but I think there were something like 32 individual pieces so it is time consuming.

Good luck, Greg

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mwhitney Mike Whitney
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Thanks Bill - panel glue sounds too severe winking smiley. Silicon and screws it is. She is garage kept and would be wiped down after a rain. Thanks for the suggestions.

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mwhitney Mike Whitney
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Good to know, Greg.

It does make sense. The flange would be closes to the car body as opposed to the boot lid then (if I'm reading you right).

I'll check out Moss' kits for the bushings. Sounds like a fun project. It was great just monkeying around tonight putting the signal switch in... reminds me of working on the bike.

Best - Mike

In reply to # 2999765 by gnflanagan I just received the same seal but I gave it to my painter to install. I talked to Martin on the phone and he said that there was a small lip on the seal and that lip faces away from the boot. I hope that makes some sense. I am not sure about neoprene bushings but five years ago I replaced all of the bushings with red urethane bushings from Moss. Most suppliers offer kits. They are usually cheaper in a kit and it is a lot less hassle than ordering them all separately. It made a huge difference in how the car rode and handled. Replacing the bushings is not too difficult but I think there were something like 32 individual pieces so it is time consuming.

Good luck, Greg

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tahoe36c Paul Hruza
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Mike,

I purchased my bushing kit from these folks... Many different kits to choose from. Nice product! Moss probably gets it from them as well... I KNOW they don't manufacture the bushings themselves!

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/packagedeal023

Paul



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mwhitney Mike Whitney
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Perfect - ordering up this bushing kit. Thanks Paul.

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dipstick Kenny Snyder (RIP)
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I have the Energy Suspension system installed and it works perfect. Use their silicon Poly lube inside, outside, and inside the suspension components to prevent squeaks.



Be safe out there.
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mwhitney Mike Whitney
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Will do - thanks for the tip. I went to order and the site froze multiple times. Contacting the owner, he thanked me for the heads up (potential lost orders) and it turns out the shipping company was bouncing back anything that needed cost calculations done outside of US.

He offered me 20% off on the bushing kit! Can't beat that - makes me want to do business with these guys.

As an aside, I read a good book recently called 'The Thank you Economy' and the changing face of business in an age where products are designed to fail, and customer service is laughable at best. The premise of the book was that in such a competitive market place, the businesses that would excel would be the ones that go the extra mile for their clients (think full-service gas-stations in the 50s).

It's the small things that go a long way!



In reply to # 3000546 by dipstick I have the Energy Suspension system installed and it works perfect. Use their silicon Poly lube inside, outside, and inside the suspension components to prevent squeaks.

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In reply to # 3001244 by mwhitney Will do - thanks for the tip. I went to order and the site froze multiple times. Contacting the owner, he thanked me for the heads up (potential lost orders) and it turns out the shipping company was bouncing back anything that needed cost calculations done outside of US.

He offered me 20% off on the bushing kit! Can't beat that - makes me want to do business with these guys.

As an aside, I read a good book recently called 'The Thank you Economy' and the changing face of business in an age where products are designed to fail, and customer service is laughable at best. The premise of the book was that in such a competitive market place, the businesses that would excel would be the ones that go the extra mile for their clients (think full-service gas-stations in the 50s).

It's the small things that go a long way!



In reply to # 3000546 by dipstick I have the Energy Suspension system installed and it works perfect. Use their silicon Poly lube inside, outside, and inside the suspension components to prevent squeaks.

You got that right! The first year that we did the car show, I personally thanked each sponsor face to face for their support. my wife and the school councilor both suggested thank you cards after the show. I felt that it was an expense and effort which duplicated what I had already done. But, what the volunteers want, they get. I learned a lesson! Some of the crustiest automotive people in the business were displaying that Thank You in their offices, and thanked ME for being so thoughtful. We always send cards now. smiling smiley

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mwhitney Mike Whitney
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Very cool, Chris. Your actions planted a seed.

A quote from his book:

“It’s still so rare for anyone to be personally acknowledged by a brand that the impact of such a simple, polite gesture on a customer’s buying habits could be huge.”

M.

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In reply to # 3001244 by mwhitney Will do - thanks for the tip. I went to order and the site froze multiple times. Contacting the owner, he thanked me for the heads up (potential lost orders) and it turns out the shipping company was bouncing back anything that needed cost calculations done outside of US.

He offered me 20% off on the bushing kit! Can't beat that - makes me want to do business with these guys.

As an aside, I read a good book recently called 'The Thank you Economy' and the changing face of business in an age where products are designed to fail, and customer service is laughable at best. The premise of the book was that in such a competitive market place, the businesses that would excel would be the ones that go the extra mile for their clients (think full-service gas-stations in the 50s).

It's the small things that go a long way!



In reply to # 3000546 by dipstick I have the Energy Suspension system installed and it works perfect. Use their silicon Poly lube inside, outside, and inside the suspension components to prevent squeaks.

You got that right! The first year that we did the car show, I personally thanked each sponsor face to face for their support. my wife and the school councilor both suggested thank you cards after the show. I felt that it was an expense and effort which duplicated what I had already done. But, what the volunteers want, they get. I learned a lesson! Some of the crustiest automotive people in the business were displaying that Thank You in their offices, and thanked ME for being so thoughtful. We always send cards now. smiling smiley

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tkamd73 Tim Bradley
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X2 or 3 on the red poly suspension bushings from Moss. Had the complete kit installed 12 years ago, still have a couple of the grease packets that are labeled Energy brand. Great product! Tim

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chris Chris Roop (RIP)
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There are some on the vendor page. smiling smiley

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33EJB Tim C
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Re: suspension bushings...

I used this one:

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=111411

Good quality, easy install, everything fit & worked as expected. As mentioned above, buy the whole kit and use liberal amounts of the sticky supplied grease.

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ClayJ Silver Member Clay Johnston
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As noted above, ALL contact surfaces should be liberally lubed if your using the lube type bushings.

Also, beware of painting the bushing contact surfaces with too much paint, the contact surfaces should be clean and smooth where the special lube is applied.

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