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Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #1
baloo s y Houston area, TX, USA Sign in to contact 1956 Jaguar XK140 1968 Jaguar 420G 1976 MG Midget 1500 1987 Porsche Carrera	Topic Creator (OP) Jul 24, 2016 07:36 PM Joined 12 years ago 1,224 Posts

I have a rebuilt engine supposedly from a 75 Midget 1500cc.
BUT, while it appears similar in general to my 76, the oil filter head looks drastically different from mine.
In checking some on-line workshop manuals as well as my 1975-79 Workshop manual, I can't find a similar filter head.

Can anyone help identifying what year (or engine) this is?
Thanks.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #2
66jalopy Phillip Jolliffe Lake City, FL, USA Sign in to contact 1956 Morris Minor	Jul 24, 2016 08:27 PM Joined 11 years ago 6,727 Posts

That engine was used in many applications. Mainly Triumph. The Spitfire is the same basic engine with a few differences. I drove my nieces 4 door Dolomite in Italy in 2012, It had a 1500 in it. I believe the main difference from Spit to Midget was oil pick up in sump. Your MG oil filter adapter will probably bolt right o.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #3
baloo s y Houston area, TX, USA Sign in to contact 1956 Jaguar XK140 1968 Jaguar 420G 1976 MG Midget 1500 1987 Porsche Carrera	Topic Creator (OP) Jul 24, 2016 08:35 PM Joined 12 years ago 1,224 Posts

In reply to # 3317899 by 66jalopy That engine was used in many applications. Mainly Triumph. The Spitfire is the same basic engine with a few differences. I drove my nieces 4 door Dolomite in Italy in 2012, It had a 1500 in it. I believe the main difference from Spit to Midget was oil pick up in sump. Your MG oil filter adapter will probably bolt right o.

Upside down filter vs horizontal filter on my 76 (as well as in the examples in my workshop manual.
What model used that? Supposedly from an original from a 75 Midgie.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #4
jmac Jere McSparran Greenup, IL, USA Sign in to contact 1970 MG Midget "(SOLD)" 1978 MG Midget "Therapy" 1978 MG Midget "(SOLD)"	Jul 24, 2016 09:39 PM Top Contributor Joined 16 years ago 3,269 Posts

I think that is the same offset filter adapter but it is on wrong. Loosen the center bolt and rotate it 180 degrees. The main reason for the adapter is that the steering shaft was too close to the filter so they made the offset adapter to make more clearance.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #5
S1 Elan Kurt. Appley Akron, Ia., USA Sign in to contact 1964 Lotus Elan 1965 MG Midget MkII	Jul 24, 2016 09:39 PM Top Contributor Joined 11 years ago 8,014 Posts

I'm not a 1500 Triumph engine owner but there were several changes from the first year to the later one's so it could be right. Also as Philip mentioned the Spitfire is where BL got the engine from. I had one in a parts purchase deal but sold it years ago. Don't remember it looking like that one.

Kurt.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #6
S1 Elan Kurt. Appley Akron, Ia., USA Sign in to contact 1964 Lotus Elan 1965 MG Midget MkII	Jul 24, 2016 09:58 PM Top Contributor Joined 11 years ago 8,014 Posts

In reply to # 3317938 by jmac I think that is the same offset filter adapter but it is on wrong. Loosen the center bolt and rotate it 180 degrees. The main reason for the adapter is that the steering shaft was too close to the filter so they made the offset adapter to make more clearance.

Agree now that it jogs my memory!!

Kurt.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #7
baloo s y Houston area, TX, USA Sign in to contact 1956 Jaguar XK140 1968 Jaguar 420G 1976 MG Midget 1500 1987 Porsche Carrera	Topic Creator (OP) Jul 25, 2016 07:39 AM Joined 12 years ago 1,224 Posts

OK, appreciate the feedback.

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #8
zetabird Tyler Campbell Nappanee, IN, USA Sign in to contact 1976 MG J-Type Midget	Jul 25, 2016 03:13 PM Joined 8 years ago 50 Posts

looks like the one in my 76 but that one looks to be on upside down

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #9
dlrhine Dave Rhine Columbia, SC, USA Sign in to contact 1978 MG Midget	Jul 25, 2016 04:22 PM Joined 14 years ago 4,598 Posts

You might want to seek help from the guys over on the Triumph Experience for definitive help on the 1500.
Folks here are very helpful, but they tend to be A series gurus with a definite bias towards the A series engines...IMHO

If it ain't broke, I'll fix it until it is! winking smiley

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Re: Is this a 1500 engine? Oil filter adapter is different. #10
baloo s y Houston area, TX, USA Sign in to contact 1956 Jaguar XK140 1968 Jaguar 420G 1976 MG Midget 1500 1987 Porsche Carrera	Topic Creator (OP) Jul 26, 2016 08:25 AM Joined 12 years ago 1,224 Posts

Oops -- yep, it is on upside down. Thanks to all.
I just could not wrap my head spatially around it, until someone pointed it out.

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